William J. Hamblin, War Criminal
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William J. Hamblin, War Criminal
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Re: William J. Hamblin, War Criminal
I doubt there's much to say on the subject. But since you seem to think the idea has enough merit to warrant a thread, Dan, I'll get the ball rolling. Perhaps you could tell us whether Dr. Hamblin endorses the following genocidal acts:
Genesis 6:5-9:
"And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them."
Deuteronomy 7:1-2:
"... the seven nations greater and mightier than thou; And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them."
Joshua 6:21:
"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword."
Joshua 10:40-41:
"So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. And Joshua smote them from Kadesh-barnea even unto Gaza, and all the country of Goshen, even unto Gibeon."
1 Samuel 27:8-9:
"And David and his men went up, and invaded the Geshurites, and the Gezrites, and the Amalekites ... And David smote the land, and left neither man nor woman alive, and took away the sheep, and the oxen, and the asses, and the camels, and the apparel. And David saved neither man nor woman alive."
Genesis 19: - Destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by fire and brimstone
Joshua 8:24 - City of A.I.
Joshua 10:26 - Joshua murdered five defenseless kings of the Amorites in cold blood.
Joshua 10:28 - City of Makkedah
Joshua 10:29 - City of Libnah
Joshua 10:31 - City of Lachish
Joshua 10:33 - City of Gezer "...Joshua smote him and his people until he had left him none remaining."
Joshua 10:34 - City of Elgon "They left none remaining."
Joshua 10:37 - City of Hebron
Joshua 10:38 - City of Debir
Numbers 21:2-3 - City of Hormah
Numbers 21:33-35: Land of Bashan "...they smote him, and his sons, and all his people, until there was none left him alive: and they possessed his land."
Deuteronomy 2:21-24: The Ammonite, Horim, and Avim people.
Deuteronomy 2:26-35 - Land of Heshbon "...we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain."
Judges 4:16 - City of Sisera
Perhaps Dan could also tell us whether Dr. Hamblin approves the slaying of drunk and defenseless Laban.
Best,
-Chris
Genesis 6:5-9:
"And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them."
Deuteronomy 7:1-2:
"... the seven nations greater and mightier than thou; And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them."
Joshua 6:21:
"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword."
Joshua 10:40-41:
"So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. And Joshua smote them from Kadesh-barnea even unto Gaza, and all the country of Goshen, even unto Gibeon."
1 Samuel 27:8-9:
"And David and his men went up, and invaded the Geshurites, and the Gezrites, and the Amalekites ... And David smote the land, and left neither man nor woman alive, and took away the sheep, and the oxen, and the asses, and the camels, and the apparel. And David saved neither man nor woman alive."
Genesis 19: - Destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by fire and brimstone
Joshua 8:24 - City of A.I.
Joshua 10:26 - Joshua murdered five defenseless kings of the Amorites in cold blood.
Joshua 10:28 - City of Makkedah
Joshua 10:29 - City of Libnah
Joshua 10:31 - City of Lachish
Joshua 10:33 - City of Gezer "...Joshua smote him and his people until he had left him none remaining."
Joshua 10:34 - City of Elgon "They left none remaining."
Joshua 10:37 - City of Hebron
Joshua 10:38 - City of Debir
Numbers 21:2-3 - City of Hormah
Numbers 21:33-35: Land of Bashan "...they smote him, and his sons, and all his people, until there was none left him alive: and they possessed his land."
Deuteronomy 2:21-24: The Ammonite, Horim, and Avim people.
Deuteronomy 2:26-35 - Land of Heshbon "...we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain."
Judges 4:16 - City of Sisera
Perhaps Dan could also tell us whether Dr. Hamblin approves the slaying of drunk and defenseless Laban.
Best,
-Chris
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Re: William J. Hamblin, War Criminal
I have it on good authority that Chris Smith moonlights as the Whore of Babylon.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
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I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it.
I avoid church religiously.
This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
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I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it.
I avoid church religiously.
This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
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B23 wrote:I have it on good authority that Chris Smith moonlights as the Whore of Babylon.
I like to think of The Whore as my Mr. Hyde. By day, they call me The Beast.
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Re: William J. Hamblin, War Criminal
CaliforniaKid wrote:I doubt there's much to say on the subject. But since you seem to think the idea has enough merit to warrant a thread, Dan, I'll get the ball rolling. Perhaps you could tell us whether Dr. Hamblin endorses the following genocidal acts:
Genesis 6:5-9:
"And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them."
Deuteronomy 7:1-2:
"... the seven nations greater and mightier than thou; And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them."
Joshua 6:21:
"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword."
Joshua 10:40-41:
"So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. And Joshua smote them from Kadesh-barnea even unto Gaza, and all the country of Goshen, even unto Gibeon."
1 Samuel 27:8-9:
"And David and his men went up, and invaded the Geshurites, and the Gezrites, and the Amalekites ... And David smote the land, and left neither man nor woman alive, and took away the sheep, and the oxen, and the asses, and the camels, and the apparel. And David saved neither man nor woman alive."
Genesis 19: - Destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by fire and brimstone
Joshua 8:24 - City of A.I.
Joshua 10:26 - Joshua murdered five defenseless kings of the Amorites in cold blood.
Joshua 10:28 - City of Makkedah
Joshua 10:29 - City of Libnah
Joshua 10:31 - City of Lachish
Joshua 10:33 - City of Gezer "...Joshua smote him and his people until he had left him none remaining."
Joshua 10:34 - City of Elgon "They left none remaining."
Joshua 10:37 - City of Hebron
Joshua 10:38 - City of Debir
Numbers 21:2-3 - City of Hormah
Numbers 21:33-35: Land of Bashan "...they smote him, and his sons, and all his people, until there was none left him alive: and they possessed his land."
Deuteronomy 2:21-24: The Ammonite, Horim, and Avim people.
Deuteronomy 2:26-35 - Land of Heshbon "...we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain."
Judges 4:16 - City of Sisera
Perhaps Dan could also tell us whether Dr. Hamblin approves the slaying of drunk and defenseless Laban.
Best,
-Chris
Quick CK, delete this post. The apologists have a killer reply to this kind of thing that will completely humiliate you and destroy your intellectual credibility. All they have to post is this:
(Sigh)
and you are TOAST!
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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Re: William J. Hamblin, War Criminal
Daniel Peterson wrote:I just thought that some might enjoy posting on this topic.
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DCP,
Melodrama is certainlyone of your best forté and you're playing well. This kinda attributes endears you to most of us.
It really doesn't matter how void of substance your posts are, we still like them
because it entertain us.
Regardless of what these MDB clones say, you, by far are by far the most entertaining
apologist, willing to stick his neck to every situation; mellow or fiery, you just don't care. And I find that wickedly entertaining.
Live long & Prosper.
Solo
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Re: William J. Hamblin, War Criminal
solomarineris wrote:Daniel Peterson wrote:I just thought that some might enjoy posting on this topic.
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DCP,
Melodrama is certainlyone of your best forté and you're playing well. This kinda attributes endears you to most of us.
It really doesn't matter how void of substance your posts are, we still like them
because it entertain us.
Regardless of what these MDB clones say, you, by far are by far the most entertaining
apologist, willing to stick his neck to every situation; mellow or fiery, you just don't care. And I find that wickedly entertaining.
Live long & Prosper.
Solo
Au contraire!
Personally, I find nothing at all melodramatic in the very real possibility that William Hamblin is a war criminal.
First of all, have you ever spoken with him? I'm telling you, the man is really, really grumpy!
And indeed, according to my sources, Dr. Hamblin Lecter is obsessed with war! He may even be responsible for the single most important work on Near Eastern warfare ever written.
I mean, really, how could anyone know that much about war if they weren't a criminal?!
I have it on good authority that Dr. Hamblin Lector spent quite a bit of time on the group "W" bench before visiting the psychiatrist in room 604. Someone told me that on that occasion Hamblin literally shouted:
"Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill, KILL, KILL."
And really, I ask you, how else could he have written this:
http://www.amazon.com/Warfare-Ancient-N ... 116&sr=8-1
Hence, I believe the fact that Dr. Hamblin Lecter may in fact be a war criminal is a topic worthy of consideration.
Besides that, Hamblin is one grumpy Dude!
So my friends... if we put the pieces together... grumpy, veins in his teeth, my sources, and that book, well....
"We know when we understand: Almighty god is a living man"--Bob Marley
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Yes, he does sound one scarey dude.
But fortunately those who live and work in Provo (a group about whom I have an almost crippling level of solicitude) can go out at night without fear, for the Amazon website gives the following affiliation for Dr. Hamblin:
Let the Brits beware.
World's fastest growing religion. World's fastest self-cloning university. A branch will be opening near you soon.
But fortunately those who live and work in Provo (a group about whom I have an almost crippling level of solicitude) can go out at night without fear, for the Amazon website gives the following affiliation for Dr. Hamblin:
About the Author
Brigham Young University, UK
Let the Brits beware.
World's fastest growing religion. World's fastest self-cloning university. A branch will be opening near you soon.
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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Re: William J. Hamblin, War Criminal
War criminal? Nah.
But nearly every middle-aged Mormon man I've ever known is guilty of heinous crimes against fashion. At the least, Hamblin's guilty by association.
He's probably wearing a short-sleeved dress shirt and tie right now:

(If by some chance he's in Chad Hardy's calendar, then I take it all back.)
KA
But nearly every middle-aged Mormon man I've ever known is guilty of heinous crimes against fashion. At the least, Hamblin's guilty by association.
He's probably wearing a short-sleeved dress shirt and tie right now:

(If by some chance he's in Chad Hardy's calendar, then I take it all back.)
KA
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Re: William J. Hamblin, War Criminal
Maybe now would be a good time for a reminder on cognitive distortions:
All-or-nothing thinking: Thinking of things in absolute terms, like "always", "every" or "never".
Magnification (catastrophizing): You exaggerate the importance of things, such as your mistakes.
Examples:
Wife, "This isn't my favorite salad you made for dinner".
Husband, "So, I'm the worst cook in the entire world. OK, so you hate everything I have ever made for you. Sorry I am such a horrible husband."
Or...
Boss, "It would be more respectful and helpful if you were honest".
Worker, "OK, so I'm the worst person in the world, I'm best friends with Hitler, I can't do anything right, and I am going to burn in Hell for eternity."
Or...
Friend, "You really hurt me".
Friend, "OK, I'm sorry for everything I have ever done to anyone in the entire world, including the ants I stepped on and the bird I hit when I first got my license".

All-or-nothing thinking: Thinking of things in absolute terms, like "always", "every" or "never".
Magnification (catastrophizing): You exaggerate the importance of things, such as your mistakes.
Examples:
Wife, "This isn't my favorite salad you made for dinner".
Husband, "So, I'm the worst cook in the entire world. OK, so you hate everything I have ever made for you. Sorry I am such a horrible husband."
Or...
Boss, "It would be more respectful and helpful if you were honest".
Worker, "OK, so I'm the worst person in the world, I'm best friends with Hitler, I can't do anything right, and I am going to burn in Hell for eternity."
Or...
Friend, "You really hurt me".
Friend, "OK, I'm sorry for everything I have ever done to anyone in the entire world, including the ants I stepped on and the bird I hit when I first got my license".

"The search for reality is the most dangerous of all undertakings for it destroys the world in which you live." Nisargadatta Maharaj