William J. Hamblin, War Criminal

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truth dancer wrote:Maybe now would be a good time for a reminder on cognitive distortions:

All-or-nothing thinking: Thinking of things in absolute terms, like "always", "every" or "never".

Magnification (catastrophizing): You exaggerate the importance of things, such as your mistakes.

Examples:

Wife, "This isn't my favorite salad you made for dinner".

Husband, "So, I'm the worst cook in the entire world. OK, so you hate everything I have ever made for you. Sorry I am such a horrible husband."

Or...

Boss, "It would be more respectful and helpful if you were honest".

Worker, "OK, so I'm the worst person in the world, I'm best friends with Hitler, I can't do anything right, and I am going to burn in Hell for eternity."

Or...

Friend, "You really hurt me".

Friend, "OK, I'm sorry for everything I have ever done to anyone in the entire world, including the ants I stepped on and the bird I hit when I first got my license".

:wink:


TD, are you channeling Daniel now?
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harmony wrote:TD, are you channeling Daniel now?

Clueless as ever, eh, harmony?

I have fun with that little diagnostic technique. The true Scratchite, when pushed, really does believe that almost everything I do is dishonest, sexist, cruel, mercenary, disreputable, provincial, racist, insincere, incompetent, repressed, insular, perverse, oppressive, bigoted, and/or the like.

It's very difficult to plead guilty to any depravity without their heads nodding in agreement.
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solomarineris wrote:
Daniel Peterson wrote:I just thought that some might enjoy posting on this topic.
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DCP,
Melodrama is certainlyone of your best forté and you're playing well. This kinda attributes endears you to most of us.
It really doesn't matter how void of substance your posts are, we still like them
because it entertain us.
Regardless of what these MDB clones say, you, by far are by far the most entertaining
apologist, willing to stick his neck to every situation; mellow or fiery, you just don't care. And I find that wickedly entertaining.
Live long & Prosper.
Solo


I think Shades needs to give you a grammar lesson.

I hope you weren't drunk at noon when you typed this.
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Example:

The true Scratchite, when pushed, really does believe that almost everything I do is dishonest, sexist, cruel, mercenary, disreputable, provincial, racist, insincere, incompetent, repressed, insular, perverse, oppressive, bigoted, and/or the like.
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CaliforniaKid wrote:I doubt there's much to say on the subject. But since you seem to think the idea has enough merit to warrant a thread, Dan, I'll get the ball rolling. Perhaps you could tell us whether Dr. Hamblin endorses the following genocidal acts:

Genesis 6:5-9:
"And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them."

Deuteronomy 7:1-2:
"... the seven nations greater and mightier than thou; And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them."

Joshua 6:21:
"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword."

Joshua 10:40-41:
"So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. And Joshua smote them from Kadesh-barnea even unto Gaza, and all the country of Goshen, even unto Gibeon."

1 Samuel 27:8-9:
"And David and his men went up, and invaded the Geshurites, and the Gezrites, and the Amalekites ... And David smote the land, and left neither man nor woman alive, and took away the sheep, and the oxen, and the asses, and the camels, and the apparel. And David saved neither man nor woman alive."

Genesis 19: - Destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by fire and brimstone
Joshua 8:24 - City of A.I.
Joshua 10:26 - Joshua murdered five defenseless kings of the Amorites in cold blood.
Joshua 10:28 - City of Makkedah
Joshua 10:29 - City of Libnah
Joshua 10:31 - City of Lachish
Joshua 10:33 - City of Gezer "...Joshua smote him and his people until he had left him none remaining."
Joshua 10:34 - City of Elgon "They left none remaining."
Joshua 10:37 - City of Hebron
Joshua 10:38 - City of Debir
Numbers 21:2-3 - City of Hormah
Numbers 21:33-35: Land of Bashan "...they smote him, and his sons, and all his people, until there was none left him alive: and they possessed his land."
Deuteronomy 2:21-24: The Ammonite, Horim, and Avim people.
Deuteronomy 2:26-35 - Land of Heshbon "...we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain."
Judges 4:16 - City of Sisera

Perhaps Dan could also tell us whether Dr. Hamblin approves the slaying of drunk and defenseless Laban.

Best,

-Chris


I do hate to be the nit picker, but murdering Laban, stealing his stuff, and kidnapping Zoram technically is not a war crime. That was just plain crime, for which Moriantum-Ala-Soditardswez (the son of Abitch) and Laban the younger attempted to track down Nephi.

And an act of God is not a war crime either, so you have to cross the flood off the list too. All that ethnic cleansing stuff, that is war crime.
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truth dancer wrote:Example:

The true Scratchite, when pushed, really does believe that almost everything I do is dishonest, sexist, cruel, mercenary, disreputable, provincial, racist, insincere, incompetent, repressed, insular, perverse, oppressive, bigoted, and/or the like.


I know, TD. It appears he didn't even realize he was doing it.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
harmony wrote:TD, are you channeling Daniel now?

Clueless as ever, eh, harmony?


I am not the clueless one, Daniel.
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The Nehor wrote: I think Shades needs to give you a grammar lesson.

I hope you weren't drunk at noon when you typed this.


Will the time ever come when you are finished criticizing another poster's language skills? Or at least those for whom English is a second or third or fourth language?

Once again, discussing the substance of a topic is deferred in favour of the easy low punch.

I only mention this as I have seen you criticize solo many times for his English language skills. Is that really necessary?
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Nightingale wrote:Will the time ever come when you are finished criticizing another poster's language skills? Or at least those for whom English is a second or third or fourth language?


Nope.

Once again, discussing the substance of a topic is deferred in favour of the easy low punch.


Yep.

I only mention this as I have seen you criticize solo many times for his English language skills. Is that really necessary?


Not necessary, but then posting on this message board isn't necessary either. I do it for the entertainment value.

By the way......are you seriously suggesting that I'm dodging discussion of the serious substance of the this topic (the allegations that Hamblin is a war criminal)?
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"I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
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Re: William J. Hamblin, War Criminal

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The Nehor wrote:
Nightingale wrote:Will the time ever come when you are finished criticizing another poster's language skills? Or at least those for whom English is a second or third or fourth language?


Nope.

Once again, discussing the substance of a topic is deferred in favour of the easy low punch.


Yep.

I only mention this as I have seen you criticize solo many times for his English language skills. Is that really necessary?


Not necessary, but then posting on this message board isn't necessary either. I do it for the entertainment value.

By the way......are you seriously suggesting that I'm dodging discussion of the serious substance of the this topic (the allegations that Hamblin is a war criminal)?


You like being seen to be so petty you'd criticize someone's language skills?

My comment about failure to address substance was a general one, not restricted to this particular thread topic, no.

Obviously, Mr. Hamblin is not a war criminal; so obvious, in fact, that it doesn't really require discussion. So, I went off on a tangent. Something I so rarely do. :)
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