Basically you are suggesting that placing faith in God is stupid.
You are twisting my words. Faith is not stupid. Irrational faith can be.
Or that these people are stupid to trust God more than doctors.
Modern conveniences exist to help and bless us. It is like he story/joke of the man in a flood that prays for God to save him. A number of people come to take him away by car, boat, helicopter. He declines all believing God will save him. He drowns. When he faves God he asks why God did not honor his faith. God says "Hey, I sent you a car before the water came, a boat when it was at your porch and a helicopter when it was at your roof. What more do you want."
These people believe God is more powerful than doctors (see Cacheman's Friend story above), and have FAITH in God's ability to heal.
One can believe God is more powerful than anything but still be rational about how they apply faith. If one believes that God will heal a critically ill child and thus refuses medicine for the child then do they apply the same criteria for all their life? Do they sit and wait for God to put food on the table every morning? If someone lives their whole life that way then perhaps your point is valid. If not then they are being selectively faithful and thus irrationally stupid.
No, they are not stupid, they have faith.
No they are stupid and irrational.
Unless you think having faith in God is stupid.
You are setting up a straw man. But sure, faith at this level is stupid.
For the record I don't think these types of people are stupid just seriously mislead and deceived by religion and religious leaders.
Oh of course. It is all the fault of religion. religious people cannot think or use their minds right? So some idiots take religion to far so it is the fault of religion, or the Bible or Jesus.
Well then you must believe Atheism is at fault for the holocaust because Hitler was an atheist.
Of course it is rare to see parents letting their children die due to their faith, having this sort of faith is rare, no question about it. But perhaps less so than you know.
What do you mean less so than I know.
I had an LDS neighbor whose two year old child died because they believed the power of the priesthood would save him, when a simple trip to the doc would easily have allowed him to live. Even after he was dead in their arms they believed the priesthood power could raise him up.
And they were idiots and should be prosucuted for neglecting their child.
Of course you don't hear about these incidents in F&T meeting. What you hear is that it was their time to go and God needed this child on the other side, and if God wanted him to live he would have lived, etc. etc. etc.
Or you hear that someone had a blessing and also used medical procedures, sort of like, well I did when I was seriously ill.
My point is, FAITH is what creates these very cruel and horrific things, not stupidity.
So does non belief then. It is not faith it is the idiotic application of it by people who are stupid. If you really believe this you have to apply it to all sorts of viewpoints not just faith.
If life is really about gaining faith and trust in God, along with obedience, the more faith the better. Demonstrating FAITH in God seems to me to be the ultimate way to pass the test. Again, think Abraham.
Hardly.
