One of the most disturbing Mormon causes I have seen

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Re: One of the most disturbing Mormon causes I have seen

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neworder wrote:Looks like the Facebook group is no longer.

I am guessing the TBM pulled it that created it in the first place because of the letter the LDS Church sent out today.

The Church wrote:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as an institution does not call for boycotts. Such a step would simply generate the kind of controversy that the media loves and in the end would increase audiences for the series. As Elder M. Russell Ballard and Elder Robert D. Hales of the Council of the Twelve Apostles have both said recently, Latter-day Saints in the public arena should conduct themselves with dignity and thoughtfulness.


Being young and foolish isn't a bad thing. There's something to be said for youthful enthusiasm, however misplaced the target.

The church's reaction is certainly no surprise. I wonder who found them, and reported them to the Brethren?
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Gazelam wrote:Does anyone know the name of the "ex-mormon" who helped them recreate the temple stuff?


I think it was Vegasrefugee.

Or was it Vegasbright...i can't remember.
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Re: One of the most disturbing Mormon causes I have seen

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TAK wrote:
Gazelam wrote:Does anyone know the name of the "ex-mormon" who helped them recreate the temple stuff?

Is there a Facebook group collecting funds to hire a "Danite" to help him keep his old covenants concerning keeping these things secret?


Is there really any question that there are still Mormons today who- if called upon would do bodily harm to others in the so-called defense of the faith?

There shouldn't be.


I agree, persecuted peoples should submit to whatever faces them no matter how harsh and not retaliate in any manner no matter how severe the defense.
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I agree, persecuted peoples should submit to whatever faces them no matter how harsh and not retaliate in any manner no matter how severe the defense.


All Im asking is that this person keep their covenants they made in regards to keeping the temple content secret and sacred.

There were penalties involved.
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Re: One of the most disturbing Mormon causes I have seen

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Gazelam wrote:All Im asking is that this person keep their covenants they made in regards to keeping the temple content secret and sacred.

There were penalties involved.

I thought those were only symbolic.

So you're admitting that the ex-Mormons have been right all along?
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Re: One of the most disturbing Mormon causes I have seen

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Mercury wrote:
Gazelam wrote:Does anyone know the name of the "ex-mormon" who helped them recreate the temple stuff?


I think it was Vegasrefugee.

Or was it Vegasbright...i can't remember.



In that case, you must have quite the paycheck.

Please feel free to donate to the Liz Music Studio fund anytime. :mrgreen:

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Gazelam wrote:
I agree, persecuted peoples should submit to whatever faces them no matter how harsh and not retaliate in any manner no matter how severe the defense.


All Im asking is that this person keep their covenants they made in regards to keeping the temple content secret and sacred.

There were penalties involved.

As I went through the temple in 1992, I am free to discuss at will any pre-1990 content since I made no oath.
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Re: One of the most disturbing Mormon causes I have seen

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This is slightly-off topic, but did anybody read the rather lengthy MAD thread dealing with all of this? I have to admit, I was struck by the sheer bloodthirstiness of the TBMs. Many of them were praying that HBO would suffer blows to its profits, and things like that. One could detect a real thirst for vengeance.
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Re: One of the most disturbing Mormon causes I have seen

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Mister Scratch wrote: I have to admit, I was struck by the sheer bloodthirstiness of the TBMs. ... One could detect a real thirst for vengeance.



Gaz wants to slit the guys throat..
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Re: One of the most disturbing Mormon causes I have seen

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Mister Scratch wrote:This is slightly-off topic, but did anybody read the rather lengthy MAD thread dealing with all of this? I have to admit, I was struck by the sheer bloodthirstiness of the TBMs. Many of them were praying that HBO would suffer blows to its profits, and things like that. One could detect a real thirst for vengeance.


This whole thing has been really surprising to me. Now, the story is getting reported on TV, radio and all over the internet. The story isn't that HBO is showing the Temple, the story is that the Church members are getting upset over it. It even showed up in the imdb daily entertainment news:

HBO Battles Mormons

I've had several people at my office mention it, and several who have never watched Big Love are planning on catching Sunday's episode to see what the big fuss is all about. I tried to explain to them that the Temple is like the Mormon secret formula for Coke, and that it is unethical for people to steal our secret formula, but that didn't seem to persuade them from watching it.

I also explained to them that any of them could go to the Temple, it's not "secret" and they just had to spend 6 hours in discussions with the missionaries, make lifelong commitments to the Church, enact subtle and drastic lifestyle changes, attend weekly 3-hour church meetings, give 10% of their income/increase, pass an interview verifying that they really, really believe the claims of the Church and and aren't drinking coffee, and then they could go no problem. There's no need to see a unauthorized but probably very accurate representation of part of the ceremony from the comfort of their own sofa this Sunday night.

Ultimately, the Church will be proven right: the best thing to do would be to absolutely ignore it, just as they ignore all the violence, profanity and sex/nudity on pay-cable channels. But they can't.
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