For Seven, [please avoid attacks and heavy antimoness..

[_Dr. Shades]

But she emphatically denied that her husband ever practiced or taught plural marriage after his death, even to her own children.

I highly doubt Joseph practiced or taught much of anything after his death.

[_cinepro]

But she emphatically denied that her husband ever practiced or taught plural marriage after his death, even to her own children.

I highly doubt Joseph practiced or taught much of anything after his death.

Are you kidding? The missionary work continues in the hereafter. All must be taught!

[_Imwashingmypirate]

But she emphatically denied that her husband ever practiced or taught plural marriage after his death, even to her own children.

I highly doubt Joseph practiced or taught much of anything after his death.

Lol.

I will get back got a busy day. Perhaps the weekend.

[_ludwigm]

...
Emma eventually learned Joseph was sleeping with her fellow Relief Society sisters and apparently was broken enough to give Joseph a few girls in obedience to the principle. Girls that unknown to her, had already been sealed to Joseph secretly. But she emphatically denied that her husband ever practiced or taught plural marriage after his death, even to her own children.
...

From the heading of page http://www.boap.org/LDS/Parallel/1844
Sermons and Instructions of Joseph Smith During the Year 1844
...
some influential Church members had once again turned against the Prophet, most notably the Laws and Higbee's together with (apparently) the Nauvoo stake president and some members of the high council, calling him a "fallen prophet" in public or at least to themselves. Emma Smith had used the Female Relief Society to hunt down plural wives in Nauvoo and was depressed and uncomfortable about developments in and around the city. The bad old days of Kirtland and Missouri seemed to be coming back only this time she vowed to see that her children were protected from the events beginning to swirl around the Saints. A deep schism existed between Joseph and Sidney Rigdon who had left the city...

[_Seven]

"Imwashingmypirate"

Why is it that people that leave the church have to pull others with them also rather than let people find their own paths? People trying to pull me out makes me wonder why they are and they have nothing to replace it with. They pull you out and leave you hanging ad when they dwell on how the church is wrong and how they want people to leave, they become miserable. They are in darkness because they are not seeking inner truth, they are merely trying to pull others out with them and causing those people to go through the same motions making them miserable also.

I completely disagree that they have those intentions.
If that were true, then I should feel bitterness towards those who shattered my testimony.
I was your dime a dozen BIC temple going Chapel Mormon housewife living in ignorant bliss before I stumbled on the anti Mormon site FAIR. Yet I have no negative feelings towards the FAIR apologists or the LDS authors who caused my pain and disillusionment.

Most apostates who start websites or blogs exposing the negative doctrines or history of Mormonism, only have the intention of correcting myths and the whitewashed history that had deceived them. They aren't trying to cause them the same misery they went through. I believe their intentions are to stop the ignorance within Chapel Mormonism that causes bigotry towards those who have left the church.

Hopefully as the history becomes more openly discussed among LDS because of the internet, there will be more empathy toward those who leave the church and their cages. Until Mormons become better educated on religion, they will never help a struggling member. I'm already seeing some progress in our circle of LDS friends.

Surely one should find he right way rather than try to prove their past or someone elses path is the wrong way. What good is it doing to them?

I agree that missionary work should cease.

[_cinepro]

I agree that missionary work should cease.

Would you settle for "woefully ineffective, with a huge percentage of converts leaving before they make any meaningful contribution"?

Because I think the Church can arrange that for you.

[_why me]

I think that this says it all:

http://www.fairlds.org/FAIR_Conferences ... hurch.html

Brigham Young once made a statement about Joseph Smith that our enemies smack their lips over. Missing its point completely, how they love to misuse it! Here is what Brother Brigham said:

I recollect a conversation I had with a priest who was an old friend of ours, before I was personally acquainted with the Prophet Joseph. I clipped every argument he advanced, until at last he came out and began to rail against "Joe Smith," saying, "that he was a mean man, a liar, moneydigger, gambler, and a whore-master;" and he charged him with everything bad, that he could find language to utter. I said, hold on, brother Gillmore, here is the doctrine, here is the Bible, the Book of Mormon, and the revelations that have come through Joseph Smith the Prophet. I have never seen him, and do not know his private character. The doctrine he teaches is all I know about the matter, bring anything against that if you can. As to anything else I do not care. If he acts like a devil, he has brought forth a doctrine that will save us, if we will abide it. He may get drunk every day of his life, sleep with his neighbor's wife every night, run horses and gamble, I do not care anything about that, for I never embrace any man in my faith. But the doctrine he has produced will save you and me, and the whole world; and if you can find fault with that, find it. He said, "I have done."1

What do you think Brother Brigham meant? Was he giving carte blanche to Church members, saying that it didn't matter how they behaved? Was he here giving his true feelings about Joseph Smith and actually describing him? Give me a break! If President Young's meaning isn't obvious, let me translate it. The truth of the gospel and the divinity of Joseph Smith's calling as prophet of the restoration do not depend on his behavior as a human being and do not require perfection in his life.

Did Brigham really think that Joseph was a moral reprobate? That is the way some brilliant anti-Mormons use this quotation. Ridiculous! Listen to this:

Who can justly say aught against Joseph Smith? I was as well acquainted with him, as any man. I do not believe that his father and mother knew him any better than I did. I do not think that a man lives on the earth that knew him any better than I did; and I am bold to say that, Jesus Christ excepted, no better man ever lived or does live upon this earth. I am his witness.2

So says brother Brigham in the above quotations.