What I've learned from apologetics

[_harmony]

I think we should honor that and cease discussion of it here and that they should be removed from this thread.

Jersey, the posts I quoted here are still on the MAD thread, so they are still "live" as it were. I didn't add anything or delete anything. If the original poster wanted their original post deleted, which is not supported by anything but speculation at this point, either the mods refused the request, or they are incompetent and didn't delete all quotes of the original, because the posts I quoted are still on the MAD thread. If they are deleted from MAD, I'll make the appropriate adjustments to my own post.

I have no comment on the content of the quoted posts. The posts are here to show the context of the discussion, and to show that Bond was not referring to KA in his post. That's all.

[_Jersey Girl]

What is the thread title of the thread where you still see the posts by fuller and Morning star that reference mental health issues?

[_Jersey Girl]

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Tarski Nothing to hide? Mar 20 2009, 11:00 PM
John W The more likely response: C. We're not ready ... Mar 20 2009, 11:03 PM
BarrelO'Mangoes QUOTE(John W @ Mar 20 2009, 10:03 PM) The... Mar 21 2009, 07:09 AM
revelation QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 20 2009, 11:00 PM) Hyp... Mar 20 2009, 11:04 PM
Scott26.2 QUOTE(revelation @ Mar 20 2009, 11:04 PM)... Mar 21 2009, 10:59 AM
Daniel Peterson A doctor tries to work with a primitive tribe. Th... Mar 20 2009, 11:07 PM
Tarski QUOTE(Daniel Peterson @ Mar 20 2009, 10:0... Mar 20 2009, 11:10 PM
Mola Ram Suda Ram QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 20 2009, 11:10 PM) I c... Mar 20 2009, 11:13 PM
Tarski QUOTE(Mola Ram Suda Ram @ Mar 20 2009, 10... Mar 20 2009, 11:18 PM
ldsmom QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 20 2009, 11:18 PM) Hmm... Mar 21 2009, 09:03 AM
e=mc2 QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 20 2009, 10:18 PM) Hmm... Mar 21 2009, 01:30 PM
Tarski QUOTE(e=mc2 @ Mar 21 2009, 12:30 PM) If y... Mar 21 2009, 05:39 PM
e=mc2 QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 21 2009, 04:39 PM) You... Mar 21 2009, 11:16 PM
Tarski QUOTE(e=mc2 @ Mar 21 2009, 10:16 PM) Are ... Mar 21 2009, 11:43 PM
Mortal Man QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 20 2009, 10:18 PM) Hmm... Mar 21 2009, 09:01 PM
a5m5a5d QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 20 2009, 10:10 PM) I c... Mar 21 2009, 01:12 AM
Daniel Peterson QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 20 2009, 11:10 PM) I c... Mar 21 2009, 09:45 AM
Tarski QUOTE(Daniel Peterson @ Mar 21 2009, 08:4... Mar 21 2009, 11:50 AM
Daniel Peterson QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 21 2009, 11:50 AM) You... Mar 21 2009, 11:57 AM
Tarski QUOTE(Daniel Peterson @ Mar 21 2009, 10:5... Mar 21 2009, 12:11 PM
a5m5a5d QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 21 2009, 11:11 AM) My ... Mar 21 2009, 01:03 PM
JLFuller QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 21 2009, 12:11 PM) My ... Mar 21 2009, 01:41 PM
Mighty Curelom QUOTE(Daniel Peterson @ Mar 20 2009, 11:0... Mar 20 2009, 11:51 PM
a5m5a5d QUOTE(Mighty Curelom @ Mar 20 2009, 10:51... Mar 21 2009, 01:23 AM
JLFuller QUOTE(Daniel Peterson @ Mar 20 2009, 11:0... Mar 21 2009, 11:40 AM
Honorentheos QUOTE(Daniel Peterson @ Mar 20 2009, 10:0... Mar 21 2009, 08:24 PM
Ron Beron QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 20 2009, 10:00 PM) Hyp... Mar 20 2009, 11:34 PM
Yirgacheffe QUOTE(Ron Beron @ Mar 21 2009, 12:34 AM) ... Mar 20 2009, 11:59 PM
talisyn D.) Unless asked mind your own business? Mar 21 2009, 12:03 AM
Ron Beron QUOTE(Yirgacheffe @ Mar 20 2009, 10:59 PM... Mar 21 2009, 12:25 AM
Tarski QUOTE(Ron Beron @ Mar 20 2009, 11:25 PM) ... Mar 21 2009, 12:38 AM
Tarski QUOTE(Ron Beron @ Mar 20 2009, 10:34 PM) ... Mar 21 2009, 12:08 AM
markwhannig QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 20 2009, 10:00 PM) Hyp... Mar 21 2009, 12:17 AM
Tarski QUOTE(markwhannig @ Mar 20 2009, 11:17 PM... Mar 21 2009, 12:33 AM
Jason QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 21 2009, 12:33 AM) Clo... Mar 21 2009, 09:38 AM
BarrelO'Mangoes .... Mar 21 2009, 07:00 AM
Flyonthewall God also commanded Abraham to sacrifice his son Is... Mar 21 2009, 07:56 AM
MorningStar I think what Tarski is saying is that only dumb pe... Mar 21 2009, 10:21 AM
talisyn QUOTE(MorningStar @ Mar 21 2009, 10:21 AM... Mar 21 2009, 10:42 AM
markwhannig QUOTE(talisyn @ Mar 21 2009, 09:42 AM) I ... Mar 21 2009, 08:02 PM
Tarski QUOTE(markwhannig @ Mar 21 2009, 07:02 PM... Mar 21 2009, 08:09 PM
Tarski QUOTE(MorningStar @ Mar 21 2009, 09:21 AM... Mar 21 2009, 11:53 AM
trim QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 21 2009, 11:53 AM) Wro... Mar 21 2009, 12:14 PM
Tarski QUOTE(trim @ Mar 21 2009, 11:14 AM) I agr... Mar 21 2009, 12:24 PM
Daniel Peterson QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 21 2009, 12:24 PM) Jos... Mar 21 2009, 12:52 PM
Mortal Man QUOTE(Daniel Peterson @ Mar 21 2009, 11:5... Mar 21 2009, 09:13 PM
Tarski QUOTE(Mortal Man @ Mar 21 2009, 08:13 PM)... Mar 21 2009, 09:31 PM
e=mc2 QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 21 2009, 08:31 PM) I s... Mar 21 2009, 11:34 PM
AmorLibertas QUOTE(e=mc2 @ Mar 21 2009, 11:34 PM) Miss... Mar 22 2009, 02:09 AM
JLFuller QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 21 2009, 09:31 PM) I s... Mar 21 2009, 11:40 PM
MorningStar QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 21 2009, 10:53 AM) Wro... Mar 21 2009, 12:28 PM
JLFuller QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 20 2009, 11:00 PM) Hyp... Mar 21 2009, 11:37 AM
MorningStar Also, I'm sure your intelligent Korean friends... Mar 21 2009, 12:35 PM
Mars "I go over" he says. Why do YOU go over... Mar 21 2009, 12:47 PM
AndyOne A good LDS friend struggles with the lack of rever... Mar 21 2009, 01:02 PM
Scott26.2 QUOTE(AndyOne @ Mar 21 2009, 01:02 PM) A ... Mar 21 2009, 01:12 PM
MorningStar Tarski, what if someone told your intelligent Kore... Mar 21 2009, 01:14 PM
JLFuller QUOTE(MorningStar @ Mar 21 2009, 01:14 PM... Mar 21 2009, 01:50 PM
MorningStar We shouldn't even learn about tensor analysis ... Mar 21 2009, 01:36 PM
e=mc2 QUOTE(MorningStar @ Mar 21 2009, 12:36 PM... Mar 21 2009, 01:47 PM
Tarski QUOTE(e=mc2 @ Mar 21 2009, 12:47 PM) LOL... Mar 21 2009, 07:29 PM
Mola Ram Suda Ram QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 21 2009, 07:29 PM) Bey... Mar 21 2009, 07:37 PM
Tarski QUOTE(Mola Ram Suda Ram @ Mar 21 2009, 06... Mar 21 2009, 07:49 PM
Senator QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 21 2009, 06:29 PM) ...... Mar 21 2009, 10:33 PM
e=mc2 QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 21 2009, 06:29 PM) Bey... Mar 21 2009, 11:28 PM
thesometimesaint I gotta love Tarskis' hypotheticals always wit... Mar 21 2009, 08:11 PM
katherine the great I lived in Korea and I just don't remember pol... Mar 22 2009, 12:13 AM
Tarski QUOTE(katherine the great @ Mar 21 2009, 11... Mar 22 2009, 12:15 AM
katherine the great QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 22 2009, 12:15 AM) (BT... Mar 22 2009, 12:28 AM
Tarski QUOTE(katherine the great @ Mar 21 2009, 11... Mar 22 2009, 12:29 AM
katherine the great QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 22 2009, 12:29 AM) sou... Mar 22 2009, 12:48 AM
Tarski QUOTE(katherine the great @ Mar 21 2009, 11... Mar 22 2009, 01:08 AM
katherine the great QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 22 2009, 01:08 AM) It... Mar 22 2009, 01:09 AM
Tarski Kerry needs to read my last reply which stands on ... Mar 22 2009, 12:25 AM
Satan It's not just that the missionaries don't ... Mar 22 2009, 02:38 AM
Hamba Tuhan QUOTE(Satan @ Mar 22 2009, 07:38 PM) It... Mar 22 2009, 04:06 AM
Hamba Tuhan QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 21 2009, 04:00 PM) Hyp... Mar 22 2009, 04:03 AM
Satan You didn't admonish your investigators to stay... Mar 22 2009, 04:25 AM
Mighty Curelom QUOTE(Satan @ Mar 22 2009, 04:25 AM) You ... Mar 22 2009, 07:26 AM
Deborah QUOTE(Mighty Curelom @ Mar 22 2009, 07:26... Mar 22 2009, 08:27 AM
MichaelW QUOTE(Mighty Curelom @ Mar 22 2009, 06:26... Mar 22 2009, 08:31 AM
Deborah QUOTE(MichaelW @ Mar 22 2009, 08:31 AM) O... Mar 22 2009, 08:37 AM
beastie QUOTEThe problem isn't that the LDS church is ... Mar 22 2009, 07:40 AM
Mighty Curelom QUOTE(beastie @ Mar 22 2009, 07:40 AM) Yo... Mar 22 2009, 08:01 AM
beastie I'm just going to go ahead and state the obvio... Mar 22 2009, 08:01 AM
Senator QUOTE(beastie @ Mar 22 2009, 07:01 AM) I... Mar 22 2009, 10:54 AM
Tarski QUOTE(Senator @ Mar 22 2009, 09:54 AM) Ye... Mar 22 2009, 11:51 AM
beastie QUOTEThose are valid points, to some extent. Perso... Mar 22 2009, 08:20 AM
CV75 Hypothesis is only the anticipation of potential r... Mar 22 2009, 08:25 AM
beastie QUOTEI also think most converts who do fall away d... Mar 22 2009, 08:28 AM
Deborah QUOTE(beastie @ Mar 22 2009, 08:28 AM) White House... Mar 22 2009, 08:34 AM
ERayR QUOTE(Deborah @ Mar 22 2009, 08:34 AM) 40... Mar 22 2009, 09:48 AM
beastie QUOTE40 plus years in the church, living all over ... Mar 22 2009, 08:36 AM
Deborah QUOTE(beastie @ Mar 22 2009, 08:36 AM) So... Mar 22 2009, 08:41 AM
beastie QUOTEBecause many of them were friends and family ... Mar 22 2009, 09:24 AM
ERayR QUOTE(beastie @ Mar 22 2009, 09:24 AM) I ... Mar 22 2009, 09:57 AM
Honorentheos To be honest, I don't think many people's ... Mar 22 2009, 10:06 AM
Deborah QUOTE(Honorentheos @ Mar 22 2009, 10:06 A... Mar 22 2009, 10:16 AM

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[_Yoda]

What is the thread title of the thread where you still see the posts by fuller and Morning star that reference mental health issues?

Harmony is correct. The post is still there. Here is the link:

http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... 2104&st=60

[_Jersey Girl]

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Tarski Nothing to hide? Mar 20 2009, 11:00 PM
Bender QUOTEERayR Posted Today, 09:48 AM QUOTE(Debo... Mar 22 2009, 12:05 PM
beastie QUOTE(Bender @ Mar 22 2009, 11:05 AM) Hav... Mar 22 2009, 05:19 PM
Deborah QUOTE(Bender @ Mar 22 2009, 12:05 PM) Hav... Mar 22 2009, 07:18 PM
Bender QUOTE(Deborah @ Mar 22 2009, 07:18 PM) Th... Mar 22 2009, 07:38 PM
Deborah QUOTE(Bender @ Mar 22 2009, 07:38 PM) I g... Mar 22 2009, 08:36 PM
Bender QUOTE(Deborah @ Mar 22 2009, 08:36 PM) Oh... Mar 23 2009, 12:52 AM
BarrelO'Mangoes I sent something similar to this message to a mod ... Mar 22 2009, 06:43 PM
bluebell QUOTE(BarrelO'Mangoes @ Mar 22 2009, 06... Mar 23 2009, 08:09 AM
Bond...James Bond QUOTE(bluebell @ Mar 23 2009, 10:09 AM) I... Mar 23 2009, 04:30 PM
beastie QUOTEThat is true but I'm not making assumptio... Mar 22 2009, 08:15 PM
beastie QUOTEOnce again, I know what I know. You can conje... Mar 22 2009, 08:47 PM
Jason I've never met anyone who left the Church beca... Mar 22 2009, 09:36 PM
katherine the great QUOTE(Jason @ Mar 22 2009, 09:36 PM) I... Mar 22 2009, 10:22 PM
Billy QUOTE(Jason @ Mar 22 2009, 08:36 PM) I... Mar 22 2009, 10:29 PM
Jason QUOTE(Billy @ Mar 22 2009, 10:29 PM) I th... Mar 23 2009, 09:09 AM
Billy QUOTE(Jason @ Mar 23 2009, 08:09 AM) In t... Mar 23 2009, 09:11 AM
Jason QUOTE(Billy @ Mar 23 2009, 09:11 AM) What... Mar 23 2009, 09:23 AM
Tarski QUOTE(Jason @ Mar 23 2009, 08:23 AM) One ... Mar 23 2009, 10:51 AM
Jason QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 23 2009, 10:51 AM) Att... Mar 23 2009, 11:05 AM
Tarski QUOTE(Jason @ Mar 23 2009, 10:05 AM) It... Mar 23 2009, 11:11 AM
Jason QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 23 2009, 11:11 AM) It ... Mar 23 2009, 11:49 AM
Billy QUOTE(Jason @ Mar 23 2009, 08:23 AM) Doct... Mar 23 2009, 01:20 PM
e=mc2 QUOTE(Billy @ Mar 23 2009, 12:20 PM) I th... Mar 23 2009, 06:11 PM
Ray Agostini QUOTE(e=mc2 @ Mar 23 2009, 05:11 PM) I su... Mar 23 2009, 06:24 PM
Billy QUOTE(e=mc2 @ Mar 23 2009, 05:11 PM) I su... Yesterday, 07:18 AM
LifeOnaPlate QUOTE(Billy @ Mar 24 2009, 07:18 AM) You ... Yesterday, 06:00 PM
Billy QUOTE(Billy @ Mar 24 2009, 06:18 AM) You ... Yesterday, 06:07 PM
Scottie QUOTE(Billy @ Mar 24 2009, 05:07 PM) Ther... Today, 05:03 PM
Deborah QUOTE(Scottie @ Mar 25 2009, 05:03 PM) I ... Today, 08:22 PM
Tarski QUOTE(Deborah @ Mar 25 2009, 07:22 PM) Yo... Today, 08:34 PM
Ray Agostini QUOTE(Deborah @ Mar 25 2009, 07:22 PM) Uf... Today, 08:53 PM
Billy QUOTE(Deborah @ Mar 25 2009, 07:22 PM) Yo... Today, 08:59 PM
e=mc2 QUOTE(Billy @ Mar 25 2009, 07:59 PM) Call... Today, 09:43 PM
e=mc2 QUOTE(Billy @ Mar 24 2009, 05:07 PM) Ther... Today, 06:56 PM
Droopy QUOTEI can't believe you gave that answer. Oh ... Mar 22 2009, 11:13 PM
Tarski QUOTE(Droopy @ Mar 22 2009, 10:13 PM) Thi... Mar 22 2009, 11:17 PM
Droopy QUOTEWhile studying for the naturalization test, t... Mar 22 2009, 11:17 PM
Droopy QUOTEI think what Tarski is saying is that only du... Mar 22 2009, 11:20 PM
Tarski QUOTE(Droopy @ Mar 22 2009, 10:20 PM) Why... Mar 22 2009, 11:47 PM
Droopy QUOTESo, roughly, how many new converts who fell a... Mar 22 2009, 11:28 PM
Droopy QUOTEI guess you just don't get out much. It... Mar 22 2009, 11:34 PM
MichaelW QUOTE(Droopy @ Mar 22 2009, 10:34 PM) Jus... Mar 23 2009, 12:04 AM
Droopy QUOTEstyle without content And Tarski, always co... Mar 22 2009, 11:36 PM
krose I have a real scenario that I think is similar to ... Mar 23 2009, 01:59 AM
Daniel Peterson QUOTE(krose @ Mar 23 2009, 01:59 AM) I ha... Mar 23 2009, 08:39 AM
littlechild QUOTE(Tarski @ Mar 20 2009, 11:00 PM) Hyp... Mar 23 2009, 10:56 AM
Scottie QUOTE(littlechild @ Mar 23 2009, 09:56 AM... Today, 04:57 PM
Mola Ram Suda Ram QUOTE(Scottie @ Mar 25 2009, 04:57 PM) An... Today, 08:59 PM
krose I see that the conversation has taken a turn, and ... Mar 23 2009, 12:32 PM
Jason I will point out that in your last analogy, Krose,... Mar 23 2009, 01:20 PM
krose QUOTE(Jason @ Mar 23 2009, 12:20 PM) I wi... Yesterday, 06:43 AM
Pahoran QUOTE(krose @ Mar 24 2009, 05:43 AM) Only... Yesterday, 05:51 PM
Tarski QUOTE(Pahoran @ Mar 24 2009, 04:51 PM) I ... Yesterday, 07:32 PM
Pahoran QUOTE(beastie @ Mar 24 2009, 06:04 PM) Gi... Today, 05:33 PM
calmoriah If the Church isn't true and its leaders not i... Mar 23 2009, 01:43 PM
PacMan QUOTEWhen I was about 17, I opened up about having... Mar 23 2009, 02:09 PM
Tarski QUOTE(PacMan @ Mar 23 2009, 01:09 PM) You... Mar 23 2009, 06:46 PM
beastie QUOTEIf the Church isn't true and its leaders ... Mar 23 2009, 06:37 PM
beastie QUOTEI refuse to believe that Tarski--despite bein... Yesterday, 07:04 PM

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Am I looking right at them and not seeing them?

[_Yoda]

Am I looking right at them and not seeing them?

Yes. Click on Options and go to a Standard view. You will be able to locate post #62,

[_Jersey Girl]

Am I looking right at them and not seeing them?

Yes. Click on Options and go to a Standard view. You will be able to locate post #62,

Where are they listed on the two pages of the thread that I copied? Do you see them?

[_Yoda]

My feeling is that what Harmony posted can be left alone. Now, Shades is obviously free to override this if he sees fit to do so.

Harmony was merely trying to put things in perspective in regards to what Bond said about KA. Both Bond and KA are posters on this board.

Also, everything Harm posted is currently on the MAD board.

What I DON'T think should happen is an extended discussion involving Moniker, her personal life, or her mental state.

I think that any type of further discussion in that vein would not be kosher, and would either:

1. Unnecessarily upset her.

2. Distract her from moving forward with her life, and concentrating on her family and career goals.

I sincerely hope that Moniker is OK. It sounds, at least at this point, like she is safe, and that her children are safe.

I wish her nothing but happiness.

[_Yoda]

Where are they listed on the two pages of the thread that I copied? Do you see them?

Weird. It's not listed in your list in the threaded view.

However, if you click on Options....go to a Standard view and go to page 5, you will be able to read it. It is post #62.

[_marg]

Harmony you are such a ding-bat.