Consiglieri (one of the good guys) Being Eaten by His Own.

[_bcspace]

My parent were not active. Were it not for good YM leaders, bishops and HTs I would never have been active at all, served a mission, etc.

No prob. But I'd say it's the exception rather than the rule.

[_Trevor]

Compare Consig to the "hardcore" MADites, like LoaP, or Scott Lloyd, or Pahoran. Can you ever imagine these men announcing that their wives had problems with the Church? There's no way it would ever happen.

I don't know whether LOaP would admit to his wife having problems with the church, but to lump him in with Pahoran? That's a little unfair, I think.

[_Ray A]

I don't know whether LOaP would admit to his wife having problems with the church, but to lump him in with Pahoran? That's a little unfair, I think.

Blair is a strange sort of creature. I've noticed that here he's rather intolerant to exmos/critics, or sarcastic, but on MAD he appears more tolerant to them. Or maybe it's just my perception. It usually works the other way around. Maybe he's more tolerant on MAD because he knows it's "home turf", and doesn't feel threatened, and knows that exmos/critics are outnumbered. He's no bully, not in my opinion anyway. I kind of like him on MAD.

And, no, he and Pahoran are like chalk and cheese.

[_moksha]

I don't like priesthood meeting either. Too staid. But since I'm going to be there, I make an effort to liven it up by asking tough questions and expressing deep and controversial doctrines. Not too much so that I dominate the conversation, but just enough to get the conversation going.

Wish you were in my ward. We just seem to go through the motions in my quorum. I would be afraid that my asking tough questions would land me in trouble with the leadership.

[_silentkid]

I think Consiglieri's situation is extremely common in the church. My younger brother and his wife both find church to be extremely boring and rarely edifying (they also hate garments, but that's a different story for a different thread). I ask them why they continue to go. They go because they believe it is true and that it's the best way to raise their kids. My parents, when they go to church, only go to sacrament meeting anymore. They both also have testimonies, but don't find church meetings to be interesting. They also don't like watching General Conference. Of their 5 kids, only my sister watched this last conference. Awesome. Maybe it's time to redraw ward boundaries or re-arrange the order of the meetings in the three-hour block. Or spike the sacrament water.

[_cinepro]

The discussion seems to be par for the course (I mean really, how much could any TBM actually sympathize and agree with his wife?). The only answer has to be that the problem isn't the ward's, it's his wife's, and if she can just get a check-up from the neck-up and change her attitude, things will get better.

And I actually agree with that sentiment to some degree; I long ago gave up expecting to be "entertained" in Church. Sometimes I am, and when so, I count it as a bonus. I go to maybe learn something, to be with other good people, to serve those I'm supposed to serve, and support my family. Sometimes I can add something to the lesson, sometimes I can lighten the mood, sometimes I can reign in a zealot, and sometimes I can finish an insanely hard Sudoku before sacrament meeting is over. I get to sit next to my wife for a while without the pressure of coming up with things to talk about, and 2/3 of my kids seem to enjoy it. It really sucks having to wake up early on a Sunday, but hey, it's not every year. And at least the building is really, really close so we don't have to drive far.

Hopefully this gets resolved for Mr. and Mrs. Consig. He certainly doesn't deserve it.

[_why me]

As I posted on the MAD board, the LDS church is made up of average human beings doing what they have to do to be saved. Most are not showmen or showpeople. They are just normal people attempting to practice their callings as best as possible. Most human beings are not entertaining. Most are just boring humans and the LDS are no exception. But that is what makes the meetings authentic. Now of course we can all go to see Benny Hinn sing and preach or hear Joyce Meyer talk about self esteem. They are captivating people and also entertaining.

In this age of instant entertainment, we all seem to be bored with the normal.

[_beastie]

As I posted on the MAD board, the LDS church is made up of average human beings doing what they have to do to be saved. Most are not showmen or showpeople. They are just normal people attempting to practice their callings as best as possible. Most human beings are not entertaining. Most are just boring humans and the LDS are no exception. But that is what makes the meetings authentic. Now of course we can all go to see Benny Hinn sing and preach or hear Joyce Meyer talk about self esteem. They are captivating people and also entertaining.

In this age of instant entertainment, we all seem to be bored with the normal.

Then why aren't you active?

[_TAK]

I feel for Consig.. I really do but equally have to wonder about all those posts of his wherein he posits proofs of the church, Book of Mormon etc.. Who is he is trying to convince?

[_cinepro]

I feel for Consig.. I really do but equally have to wonder about all those posts of his wherein he posits proofs of the church, Book of Mormon etc.. Who is he is trying to convince?

Hopefully he won't be the next Chris Tolworthy. (This was his site. Then he left the Church.)