Ethics Scenario

[_GoodK]

Only if you are milking it for money and not actually pursuing serious legal action. More so if you're planning a book and/or videos to sensationalize it.

Yeah. Right. Good one.

I'm sure you'll let us know what you find out.

[_karl61]

what are you talking about. LA county DCFS goes out on calls the police don't know about and find out only when the social worker calls a police officer to the scene to take a report and maybe to take children described by section 300 (a) or physical abuse or 300 (d) sex abuse into custody. They then release the kid back to DCFS as they are they ones that placed the kid and then file a petition with the court. The police go make an arrest and do their job. Two agencys doing two different things both following their department policies and the law.

[_rcrocket]

what are you talking about. LA county DCFS goes out on calls the police don't know about and find out only when the social worker calls a police officer to the scene to take a report and maybe to take children described by section 300 (a) or physical abuse or 300 (d) sex abuse into custody. They then release the kid back to DCFS as they are they ones that placed the kid and then file a petition with the court. The police go make an arrest and do their job. Two agencys doing two different things both following their department policies and the law.

More gibberish. My spell and grammar checker just crashed.

[_karl61]

you don't know what you are talking about. It's clear.

[_karl61]

I'm not writing a paper.

[_karl61]

what are you saying - it takes a police report to send out a social worker to investigate child abuse?

Here's the way it works in California.

A call is made to the police. The police are the first responders. They always complete a police report if they think there is a colorable claim of a crime. The complainant must sign a witness statement if competent. The police then "refer" the matter to DPS. DPS will send a social worker to the family later. Could be that day, but it usually days to weeks later.

A complaint can be made directly to DPS. I know; I've done it. When I did it, DPS with me on the line then calls the cops and transfers me to the cops. The cops then go out to investigate and prepare a police report and DPS gets involved.

Theoretically, a complaint can be made to DPS and they can decide it doesn't warrant a call to the cops -- very very unlikely if child abuse is alleged. Most likely this occurs in cases where there is neglect. DPS comes out days later, if at all. These days, DPS rarely comes out due to budget issues except in a crisis.

Although I have never been involved in making an anonymous complaint, I don't think the police or DPS would respond to blogs. They hardly respond to press accounts. I don't know how they respond to emails, but I do know that law enforcement in the normal criminal context does not respond to emails in cases I'm familiar with. I'm working with the FBI on a current matter and their special agents give me their emails on my promise that I don't give it to anybody else, so I'm assuming they just don't do a lot with email.

this is nonsense.

[_karl61]

Crock wrote this and this nonsense:

A call is made to the police. The police are the first responders. They always complete a police report if they think there is a colorable claim of a crime. The complainant must sign a witness statement if competent. The police then "refer" the matter to DPS. DPS will send a social worker to the family later. Could be that day, but it usually days to weeks later.

A complaint can be made directly to DPS. I know; I've done it. When I did it, DPS with me on the line then calls the cops and transfers me to the cops. The cops then go out to investigate and prepare a police report and DPS gets involved.

[_rcrocket]

I think if you'll check my post I indicated the department can initiate an investigation on its own without a preceding police report. That would only come in a non-emergency situation. If the department's intake call determines that there is child abuse involved, they will always call the police. They are required by law to do so; it is a misdemeanor when the department has a "reasonable suspicion" not to call the police within I think 36 hours. I know; I've been through the process many times.

When a mandated reporter makes a report of child abuse, it goes to the police.

I can tell you aren't writing a paper.

The long and the sort of this exchange is that it is evident Mr. Articulate never made a report. Ever.

[_karl61]

what are you talking about. LA county DCFS goes out on calls the police don't know about and find out only when the social worker calls a police officer to the scene to take a report and maybe to take children described by section 300 (a) or physical abuse or 300 (d) sex abuse into custody. They then release the kid back to DCFS as they are they ones that placed the kid and then file a petition with the court. The police go make an arrest and do their job. Two agencys doing two different things both following their department policies and the law.

More gibberish. My spell and grammar checker just crashed.

actually, if you knew anything about how the referral process is made you would understand that but since you don't it doesn't make sense to you.

[_rcrocket]

actually, if you knew anything about how the referral process is made you would understand that but since you don't it doesn't make sense to you.

Are you a public servant with a college degree?