antishock8 wrote:Anyway. I can't argue Islam teaches women should be ignorant because it's not true. I can't argue within Islam women are explicity mandated to be uneducated because it's not true.
I hope that harmony will read those two sentences and ponder them.
By their fruits shall they be known. Either way, Afghan women... virtually all Muslim women suffer because they are Muslim.
antishock8 wrote:I simply think Islam is so patriarchal that statistically women are at a severe disadvantage, across the Islamic world, because Shariah gives them little to no recourse to right any perceived injustices... Education, marriage, abuse, equality... It's all in the same boat. A woman is not equal, will never be equal, and has no reasonable recourse within Shariah. She is at the complete, and total mercy of Shariah and Muslim men and whatever their own notions of piety are at the moment.
There's some truth to that.
I object to the idealization of Islam and Islamic society precisely as much as I object to their demonization.
Truth hurts.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
From correspondents in St Petersburg | April 13, 2009 Article from: Agence France-Presse
AN Azeri immigrant in Russia's northern city of Saint Petersburg has been charged with hiring hit men to kill his 21-year-old daughter for wearing a mini-skirt, police said today.
The man's arrest follows the detention last week of two other citizens of Azerbaijan, a majority Muslim state in the Caucasus, who confessed to murdering the girl, a university medical student.
“They admitted to being paid 100,000 rubles ($4140) by the girl's father. They said he wanted to punish his daughter for flouting national traditions and wearing a mini-skirt,” a police source told said today.
The girl was abducted on the street in Russia's second city on March 8, taken to the outskirts of Saint Petersburg and then shot twice in the head, the source said.
Russia has experienced a revival of conservative religious tradition since the fall of the Soviet Union both within its Russian Orthodox and large Muslim communities. - - - - - > (The side effect of the fall of SU.)
The Saint Petersburg Mosque – the largest and northernmost in Europe when it was built in 1913 – now counts mostly migrants from ex-Soviet Azerbaijan among its worshippers.
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- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
Well since his official Basta here a month ago today, Peterson managed 600 posts on two message boards, including over 150 here. But let's give him the benefit of the doubt that he is a real busy BYU teacher!
Now it seems he's announced yet another departure from this place - one with all the fanfare of a potential lawsuit!!! Can we get anymore dramatic to draw attention? This is why those who can do, and those who can't ought to stay on campus and craft fictional theory.
I don't know what is more ridiculous: Trying to convince people that a lawsuit over such nonsense is actually going to take place, or attempting to give credibility to some confused immature poster who's actions will be taken even less seriously by those actually experienced in our legal system. Somehow, I think these two posters are in the same league at seeing the forest through the trees. These two should get together and start their own show. Ratings ought to be ..... well.... predictable!
"It's not so much that FARMS scholarship in the area Book of Mormon historicity is "rejected' by the secular academic community as it is they are "ignored". [Daniel Peterson, May, 2004]
Joey wrote:Well since his official Basta here a month ago today, Peterson managed 600 posts on two message boards, including over 150 here. But let's give him the benefit of the doubt that he is a real busy BYU teacher!
Now it seems he's announced yet another departure from this place - one with all the fanfare of a potential lawsuit!!! Can we get anymore dramatic to draw attention? This is why those who can do, and those who can't ought to stay on campus and craft fictional theory.
I don't know what is more ridiculous: Trying to convince people that a lawsuit over such nonsense is actually going to take place, or attempting to give credibility to some confused immature poster who's actions will be taken even less seriously by those actually experienced in our legal system. Somehow, I think these two posters are in the same league at seeing the forest through the trees. These two should get together and start their own show. Ratings ought to be ..... well.... predictable!
I agree, Joey, like I said earlier it has come to a point where they both deserve each other.
I think it would be morally right to lie about your religion to edit the article favorably. bcspace
If someone legitimately issued a threat of litigation against me, I would stop posting, too. No one seriously thinks GoodK has a case, however the thousands of dollars it costs to have legal representation isn't worth the hassle. I'm sure Mr. Peterson has some connections that would come to his aid, but that's beside the point and it's bad form to ask for legal help because you were posting on the Internet.
Personally? I think GoodK doesn't have legal representation. I think this is sheer antagonism on his part. He's a kid. A big... Fat... idiot of a kid.
Running to a lawyer is like a kid running to an adult to tattle. Sure, sometimes it needs to be done, but people generally don't like to be with the kid who goes running to mommy.
That's General Leo. He could be my friend if he weren't my enemy. eritis sicut dii I support NCMO
antishock8 wrote:Personally? I think GoodK doesn't have legal representation. I think this is sheer antagonism on his part. He's a kid. A big... Fat... dip**** of a kid.
Yes, I agree and he was also predictably provoked by dip**** Dr. Dan.
Sad both are equal and deserve each other.
I think it would be morally right to lie about your religion to edit the article favorably. bcspace
antishock8 wrote:If someone legitimately issued a threat of litigation against me, I would stop posting, too. .
That is where real world experience would help out Peterson. This threat is about as legitimate as the historicity claim for the Book of Mormon.
There is no way this goodk will be taken seriously by anyone in pursuing a lawsuit over this nonsense. Clearly, by his ranting, one can easily see he just needs a firm hand to his fanny. That is why I believe Peterson is just trying to draw attention to yet another "basta". If not that, and Peterson really thinks this kid is capable of bringing on a costly or harmful lawsuit, he is truely one of the most naïve, self claimed educated, persons I've witnessed on this board.
He just lives for the dramatics here. He'll be back to feed the addiction and see his name in print!
"It's not so much that FARMS scholarship in the area Book of Mormon historicity is "rejected' by the secular academic community as it is they are "ignored". [Daniel Peterson, May, 2004]
Joey wrote: He just lives for the dramatics here. He'll be back to feed the addiction and see his name in print!
Yup..
God has the right to create and to destroy, to make like and to kill. He can delegate this authority if he wishes to. I know that can be scary. Deal with it. Nehor.. Nov 08, 2010
