Beastlie (an unmarried woman living with a man) and Ray Agostini (an adulterer and long-time “lone wolf” predatory male) lecturing on marital fidelity and the meaning of chastity to a man who has “known” but one woman, who in turn has “known” but one man, and who have been blissfully joined in matrimony for almost three decades.
Folks, it simply does not get any richer than this.
It remains the task of the artists and the social scientists to sort out the various reasons and motivations behind the almost-comical reality of how exmormons just love to set themselves up as the arbiters of morality for their former brothers and sisters in the faith.
I mean, the mere idea of beastlie citing Ezra Taft Benson (
) in an attempt to condemn what she views as the moral turpitude of a faithful LDS message board adversary … oh, my! Logic and reason are meaningless in this wonderland, and yet no one seems to detect anything amiss in the tableau thus produced!
Well, in my estimation, this is classic exmormon behavior in spades. And I’m satisfied, once again, that – if nothing else – the exmormon remains perhaps the most predictable species in the social environment on planet earth.
Thank you one and all for participating in the study.
As I expected, this response doesn't address the point and attempts to divert attention.
Neither Ray nor I are LDS. Neither Ray nor I feel any compulsion to view the counsel of LDS prophets as anything other than their own opinions. You, on the other hand, claim to be an LDS believer. So you, not Ray nor I, ought to care what your prophets have said on this issue, and ought to have some interest in comporting your behavior accordingly. In fact, I specifically shared Benson's quote to demonstrate why I did not believe your
wife would be ok with your behavior. Your wife is LDS, is she not? So, in that case, it's not me "lecturing you", but an LDS prophet.
Aside from that, the point is that people who are married, or who have long-term intimate relations, demonstrate behaviors that indicate "love and respect" or do not demonstrate those behaviors. That has nothing to do with being LDS, and rather has to do with being a human being.
It is ironic that I, an unmarried atheist who enjoys a loving, intimate relationship with my sweetie, am able to recognize this while you, an LDS believer married in the temple, apparently do not.
You can insist as loudly as you want that your flirtatious and often suggestive behavior toward other women do not indicate a lack of respect for your wife. Perhaps in the private universe you've constructed in your mind, that is true. However, I suspect most people would agree with my judgment of your behavior. Yeah, I'm sure you love your wife. Your behavior does not indicate respect. And you know, full well, I'm not just talking about references to KA's cosmetic surgery. Once again, men who feel compelled to brag loudly about their virility and manhood usually have reasons to feel insecure about those same things.
I'd like to hear from the other married men on this thread, LDS or not. Would you feel that behaving in a flirtatious and/or suggestive manner toward other women shows respect for your wife? (or vice versa for women)
