West Ridge Academy Missionaries Tutor With Love

[_marg]

The Mormon Gulag story is just a lot of exaggeration on GoodK's part.

What specifically do you think Eric has exaggerated with regards to Westridge?

[_Mercury]

The Mormon Gulag story is just a lot of exaggeration on GoodK's part.

Back up your claims counsel or withdraw your comments.

[_rcrocket]

Hey Merc:

How ya' doin' with holding on to that Church membership of yours? Now there's a conundrum, isn't it -- still outwardly accepting it, accepting home teaching and going to a meeting here and there.

Time to come back to the fold, brother; the church wants and needs you.

You'll just need to read my posts a little deeper to know that I have responded.

[_karl61]

it's bad news sending kids to a place like this as they get use to a institutional setting. And usually it's the parents that need intense counseling not the kids as the apple doesn't fall to far from the tree.

I also hope that state of Utah does not use this place for placement for probation kids or really difficult foster children that are hard to place. I don't think it would happen because the Church and State issue.

[_rcrocket]

Let's say 15-year-old Mormon Billie is pending trial for rape of a 14 year old. He smokes weed every day. He doesn't come home. He has just been arrested for assault with a deadly weapon. He doesn't attend school.

Let's say that 16-year-old Mormon Johnny, meth-fueled, comes home one evening and assaults his Mom with a knife? This culminates months of trying to get Johnny to go to school, much less Church, and to stop his drug habit. Smoking dope on the front stoop is an everyday occurrence.

Or, let's say that 16-year-old Mormon Suzie is self-destructive. She cuts herself. She takes meth. She doesn't attend school. She performs sex on any boy who will ask her. Her body is filling with tattoos.

All three of these are case stories with which I have personal knowledge.

Sure, there may be problems with the parents. Who doesn't have problems? But the problem is HERE and NOW. Counseling the parents won't fix the meth use, the sex, the dropping out.

All three of them have had their children in counseling, to the best they have been able to get there. All three of them are looking at or have looked at boot camp as an alternative.

What is the solution? They could be easily be declared incorrigible and sent off to CYA. In two of these above examples, there are other children in the household being exposed to the drug crowd which comes around when parents are absent.

Boot camp, whether it be Mormon or Baptist, can be an acceptable alternative to the CYA. Hope for desperate parents. However, in no case with which I am personally familiar, has the kid returned from boot camp cured; in all cases there was a high degree of recidivism to bad habits.

[_Mercury]

Hey Merc:

How ya' doin' with holding on to that Church membership of yours? Now there's a conundrum, isn't it -- still outwardly accepting it, accepting home teaching and going to a meeting here and there.

Time to come back to the fold, brother; the church wants and needs you.

You'll just need to read my posts a little deeper to know that I have responded.

Does Ad Hominem work in the California courts? It seems like you are used to it...at least here.

[_rcrocket]

Hey Merc:

How ya' doin' with holding on to that Church membership of yours? Now there's a conundrum, isn't it -- still outwardly accepting it, accepting home teaching and going to a meeting here and there.

Time to come back to the fold, brother; the church wants and needs you.

You'll just need to read my posts a little deeper to know that I have responded.

Does Ad Hominem work in the California courts? It seems like you are used to it...at least here.

No ad homs here. First of all, I don't know who you are. Second of all, I don't disparage your message because of who you are. I disparage the message directly.

[_truth dancer]

From the MG website:

Admissions criteria EXCLUDES the following:

Physically violent histories
Anti-social or Conduct Disorder

The MG is appropriate for those children with "soft to moderate emotional or behavioral problems".

My bold

[_Mercury]

No ad homs here. First of all, I don't know who you are. Second of all, I don't disparage your message because of who you are. I disparage the message directly.

You are a truly foul human being.

Lawyer? Check
Mormon? Check
Douchebag? Check

The redundant trifecta is in play.

[_Mercury]

No ad homs here. First of all, I don't know who you are.

I guess that does not stop you from acting like you DO know me.

Second of all, I don't disparage your message because of who you are.

Douchebag, yes you do.

I disparage the message directly.

Seriously?

You are a source for constant ad hominem attacks. When I asked you to retract your bull you simply launched into an ad hominem attack. Because you think you know me you somehow believe that this magically makes me succeptible to your smarmy childish banter.

Here ya go, this will help:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=logical+fallacies