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Response To Criticism and the Road Ahead

Post by _GoodK »

Well, it's been well over twenty-four hours since the ego-stroking post calling for my banning was issued (by a poster completely unknown to me until now) and I'm afraid I still have no "change of plans" to report.

First of all, I'll put this to rest and say, without a doubt, that virtually everything Robert Crocket of Newhall, California has said about me personally is a lie. That's the only response he's going to get (besides the formal complaint I actually mailed - via this FORM - to the state Bar. (Once he let it slip that his insurance carrier advised him to cease and desist his inflammatory posting here, I couldn't resist.)

But enough about Bob. He's close enough so that I can, and will, deal with him differently than the BYU Professor, Daniel C. Peterson.

Professor Peterson embarked on this journey last year.

I wrote something personal, but still anonymously, out of respect for my parents, and posted it here. I didn't disguise it very well, but the only recipients of the email I was commenting on were "Latter-day Saints" and I certainly didn't think any of them would would use it maliciously against one of their own.

After all, let's remember the timing; Professor Daniel Peterson decided to "rub my dad's nose in it" and forward links to my anonymous posts on this message board to my step-dad while he was traveling back and forth from between his work in California and the Intensive Care Unit in Utah. While I was traveling back and forth, as well as most of the other members of my family.

To be frank, I underestimated Dan would be so egregiously evil. I did nothing to provoke this sort of thing, never exposed anyone to any in real life consequences. Keep that in mind.

Strike 1.

Shortly after that incident, Professor Peterson and his weird, mean-spirited, attorney friend Robert Crockett began to antagonize me on this board with libelous, taunting, and defamatory statements for the public to see -- meant to specifically; one, silence me, two, discredit me, and three hurt me or make me mad.

I've gotten what can only be described as "bizarre" correspondences from Robert Dale Crockett, #105628, ever since.

Both Daniel Peterson, a BYU Professor, and his attorney friend Bob have tried to leverage this outing and vague, thickly separated personal relationship - if you can even call it that - to substantiate false, and sometimes disgusting comments about me. Virtually every post that has been directed towards me by one of these two self-proclaimed apologists has been of this nature.

When I started posting here, I had much more time to post here. I work as a writer - for a living - full-time now, so these colossal time wasting back and forth attacks on my reputation and character cost me money now, too. I have to chose to waste valuable time to answer every stupid accusation - for instance, Bob's constant insistence that I'm not college educated, even though I am - or run the risk that if I don't, it might give the impression that what they are saying is true.

Strike 2.

In spirit of leveraging their vague, personal familiarity* with me -- Daniel C. Peterson deliberately chose to act maliciously, libelously, and thus chose the subsequent consequences. A recurring quote from Orwell's Winston Smith couldn't be more apt, The consequence is contained in the act.

On a thread on this message board, the self-proclaimed LDS bishop proceeded to claim possession of some "inside information" about my personal life, and then proceeded to defame my character and personal reputation with blatant lies. He then decided to try to cover what may prove to be a very costly mistake by disclaiming his libelous post was part of some kind of "experiment" or test of the board's overall gullibility.

Clearly, this was Strike 3.

It may disappoint some of you -especially those I have been corresponding with privately- to hear me reaffirm this, but yes, I am suing Daniel C. Peterson for his libelous, defamatory comments on this board. It's happening. Does that mean he has to stop posting here? Why would it? I don't see why that question wasn't raised to him. I was threatened with a lawsuit for the website http://www.MormonGulag.com, but that didn't cause me to change anything in the slightest. It seems to me that his only concern should be in posting comments here that are of a libelous nature towards those who won't tolerate it.

Obviously, his right to participate on this board and enjoy freedom of speech isn't being hindered. In my opinion, his stated "departure -- effectively with a gun" to his head is merely another show of his famous fishing for compliments. In my opinion, Professor Peterson is - once again - begging for reassurance and support via languishing "fans" after doing something horrible and inexcusable.

For those of you who think I'm foolish enough to post the in real life identity of some unnamed professional so he can be harassed by questionably sane people because they say so; I say come on. You can't believe that I'm that stupid, can you? Jesus.

For those that just overall think it's a bad idea to both file a lawsuit and complain to the State Bar in response to these two self-proclaimed "Latter-day Saint's" numerous libelous remarks, I guess I should apologize, but I won't.

Not for a second. Of course I respect the opinions of powerfully insightful posters like KA, Ray A, Some Schmo, Liz, Dr. Shades, TD, and the like -- so I respectfully disagree. I appreciate your advice, but I respectfully question anyone's ability to really successfully know what they would do in a situation like this. It's about much more than just being on the receiving end of both the BYU Professor and his lawyer's harassment for over a year now.

I didn't chose to post on this website with my real identity or the real identity of my family, that was the choice made for me by Daniel C. Peterson and his attorney friend.

I didn't chose to have my name, reputation, and character attacked, falsely, by either of these self-proclaimed LDS bishops.

Ultimately, they both have left me no choice. Of course I don't plan on retaliating to every libelous comment on this board. I never did.

I don't plan on responding to the recent overflow of cowardly taunts, insults, and accusations from my questionably sane and healthy, no-name, shameful, and sometime foul mouthed critics. I never did.

I can't believe their sense of self-importance is so inflated that they seem to actually expect me to. But, being a showman, I will leave something satiating for the legally curious:

anonymous attorney wrote:I don't know what it does that he "withdrew" his comments a few hours later.That probably does not matter technically, but it may matter for damages-- ie a jury might consider that the harm was remedied. We'll talk more about this when we talk again.


Sincerely yours,

GoodK


*For those who are newer here, the relationship is as follows: My step-dad has written for the FARMS review [of authors] and was solicited by Daniel C. Peterson and the FARMS' full-time fund raiser Ed Snow last year or so, and presumably they share more frequent communication via email now. His attorney, Bob, lives in a neighboring stake, (one which did not even share the same building, and was pretty far away - akin to the distance and separation between downtown Salt Lake City and South Jordan, Utah). Before I officially announced to my parents that I would be "retiring" from early morning seminary class I was forced to sit through Mormon mythology classes at 6:00 A.M before school every morning in a classroom with a lovely young lady who shares his last name. When my overzealous parent reviewed Mormonism by Kurt Van Gorden it resulted in a lawsuit against him personally, FARMS, the editor of FARMS personally, the First Presidency of the Church, and maybe a few others I'm forgetting. Bob Crockett was called upon to aid in my step-dad's defense, and if I remember correctly that was the extent of their relationship. My step-dad and I lived in the same house up until about nine years ago. Thus is the extent of the six-degrees of separation between the BYU professor and FARMS chief, his attorney friend, and myself.




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Post by _marg »

It's really been inexcusable the way Dan and Bob have gone after you. Good for you for sticking up for yourself.
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Hey GoodK,

Not for a second. Of course I respect the opinions of powerfully insightful posters like KA, Ray A, Some Schmo, Liz, Dr. Shades, TD, and the like -- so I respectfully disagree. I appreciate your advice, but I respectfully question anyone's ability to really successfully know what they would do in a situation like this. It's about much more than just being on the receiving end of both the BYU Professor and his lawyer's harassment for over a year now.


You are absolutely right.

The taunting has gone on for over a year now and as much as I hoped it would not come to this, I understand why it did.

~td~
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Well, since I haven't gone through what you have, I won't judge your actions. If you're intent on going through with it, then I hope you get the resolution (closure) to this matter you're looking for, man.
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Eric,

I'm coming to this late, so perhaps you've already responded to this. How do you differentiate between what DCP did to you, and the "crippling addiction" thread you started about him? Did you talk to your lawyer about that thread, and did he/she agree that these threads were fundamentally different? I'm really not familiar with the legal issues, so perhaps I'm asking a question everyone else already knows the answer to.
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Much of what is written above is substantially false, but my response to the falsehoods will be left, should it come to that, for the courtroom.

Posters here should understand that, if I'm obliged to defend myself, everything and everybody connected with this board is potentially liable to factor into the ensuing litigation.

For that, you have my apologies in advance. I wish none of you (including GoodK) any ill, but I will vigorously defend myself. Moreover, pending my attorneys' advice (of course), I lean strongly toward filing a countersuit in order to recover any and all legal expenses and, in the form of substantial punitive damages, to discourage further baseless lawsuits against me.

This is not a joke.

I feel that I owe everybody here a warning, so that they're not caught by surprise when and if they're dragged into this situation. Again, I regret it.
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Post by _cinepro »

GoodK, how did you fill out that form you sent in? It seems to be more specifically applied to complaints against a lawyer that has been retained in some way to perform lawyerly services for you, not a "if you don't like someone who is a lawyer let us know" form.
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Post by _Daniel Peterson »

Here, for the information of all board participants, is the private message that I sent to Dr. Shades at 6:15 PM on Monday, 13 April 2009, shortly after I first learned of GoodK's intention to take me to court:

Jason:

Just a heads up. GoodK has announced, on the "Ethics Scenario" thread, that he intends to sue me (with the express, and expressed, intent of ruining me and my family financially) for something I posted on MDB. I don't know how earnest he is, but I take this sort of thing very seriously. Even a baseless lawsuit that's ultimately tossed out can drag on and on in the meantime, with devastating financial consequences for its target. (I know. I've already been the target of such a lawsuit, filed by an evangelical anti-Mormon in California. It was completely without merit and was eventually dismissed by the judge "with prejudice," but it dragged on for fully two years and cost an enormous sum of money to defend against.)

If he does sue me, I'll possibly be obliged to pull you and others involved with the board into court. Obviously, this isn't my preference and I wouldn't in any way be seeking to damage you, but you should know what might be looming on the horizon.

Personally, I think the whole thing is beneath ridiculous, but I can't afford to take the prospect of losing my home and my life savings lightly. I've already been in contact with an attorney.

Best wishes,

Dan Peterson
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virtually everything Robert Crocket of Newhall, California has said about me personally is a lie.


Maybe I can ask you to quit posting personal information about me. At least about family members whose names or identies I have never brought out here.

But, I hope God brings peace to your soul. There is a God who loves you and wants to repair the relationship with your family.

As far as your Gulag is concerned, I still distrust your account. It isn't corroborated where it should be. It appears to me that you are making things up, just has you have falsely stated on this board that I have been sending you PMs inconsistent with my position in society. But I will follow any investigation into your claims with interest and will recant my opinions when there is corroboration.

As far as your state bar complaint against me, this isn't the first time you've done this. Too bad, but have at it. I am truly sorry that I have hurt your feelings, but boards like this are just meant for furious debate, right? Shouldn't you have a thick skin here and elsewhere? One thing that makes Rollo and Scratch formidible debaters is that they rarely get upset when somebody says something mean about their posts.

But, unlike what you have done to me, I have never exposed any personal thing about you on this board, nor did I expose you to your father, as much as you would like to think otherwise.

As far as your persecution of Dr. Peterson with a lawsuit is concerned, I say and continue to say: You are bluffing. But, any such suit would expose you personally in many ways, so have at it. I remember the time I was first plagiarzed; an article I wrote in a law journal was copied almost word for word in another journal without attribution. I wanted vengeance; a wise partner in my law firm told me to grin and bear it, and find peace rather than retribution. It was wise advice. I give the same to you. You need friends of all stripes in the world; not enemies at every turn.
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Personally, I believe the whole thing is beneath ridiculous....


I'll testify to that.
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