Response To Criticism and the Road Ahead

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Re: Response To Criticism and the Road Ahead

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Some Schmo wrote:Of course I don't, but it sure sounded like you did earlier in the thread.


Which only proves how imperfect internet bulletin board communication is. I'm strictly neutral, remember? No dog in this fight.
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harmony wrote:
Some Schmo wrote:Of course I don't, but it sure sounded like you did earlier in the thread.


Which only proves how imperfect internet bulletin board communication is. I'm strictly neutral, remember? No dog in this fight.

I don't have a dog in this fight either, but it doesn't mean I can't identify the parties' individual responsibilities in the matter. Our opinions have no bearing on who's actually responsible for what.
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What about the physical threat to DCP that was in GoodK's announcement (of intent to sue) post?


Yeah, I forgot about that line. That will cause GoodK trouble, in my opinion.
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dblagent007 wrote:
msnobody wrote:Seriously, I'd like to ask one, well two questions, why did you feel GoodK's father "ought" to know and why you felt obligated that you should be the one to inform him?

Did you know that there are literally dozens of threads where DCP, Bob, GoodK and everyone in-between discuss exactly this? For a time, it seemed that every thread turned into a discussion of this issue. Perhaps you could review the old threads and we could skip any further explanations, counterpoints, and endless discussions of "netiquette."


"Netiquette" has nothing to do with my post. I'm speaking of personal character and integrity, not of internet anominity. This is why I posted my comment about assassination of one's own character.

And maybe I'm confused here, do GoodK and his stepfather not know how to contact one another? Can they not communicate with one another on their own?
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Rollo Tomasi wrote:I felt exactly the same way when I first read the post in question. DCP has dropped so many hints about what he "knew" of GoodK and his family and their past, that I considered his post to be finally divulging what he had threatened to reveal for some time. Until DCP's later 'confession,' I had no idea it was a so-called "test" post.


I also had this reaction. I don't post a lot here, and it would be easy for me to miss the "test" post that followed later in the thread. I was already aware of the history back when DCP had exposed GoodK's anonymous post to his Stepfather. Daniel has hinted many times that as a friend of the family, he knows very damaging things about GoodK.

Naturally when I saw Daniel's post, I assumed he had finally had enough of him and revealed what he had been holding back all this time. The way it was written sounded genuine to me.

GoodK's thread on DCP and the drug was clearly a parody and I don't see how anyone could have taken it seriously. But even so, I think that hurts him to have posted it in retaliation.

I don't see anything to be gained by sueing Daniel and hope this is dropped for both their families sake but I do sympathize for what GoodK has been through.

in my opinion, GoodK's energy would best be used in his work to have the Mormon Gulag exposed and shut down. This lawsuit is going to take him away from a worthy cause.
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I think if stepdad is a good friend, a better choice would have been to have encouraged GoodK and his stepdad to communicate between themselves. I don't see that anything positive came out of this. If you care about stepdad, it stands to reason you should care about GoodK, which should include loving him as much or even more than you love your friend Mr. Stepdad. I see it as violating any trust GoodK may have had in you. This could have played out so much better than it did.

I agree with the above poster not to get distracted on Dr. Peterson and work to change the abuse others experience in such facilities/programs. Which battle is best served?

So much for what I think though. I'll cease my participation in this busybodiedness and go pluck the oak from my own eye. Carry on.
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My prediction: no law suit involving issues between GoodK and DCP will ever see the inside of a courtroom.
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Sh.......

I can hear taps.

Wrong thread dang fingers
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Re: Response To Criticism and the Road Ahead

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Trevor wrote:My prediction: no law suit involving issues between GoodK and DCP will ever see the inside of a courtroom.


A prophet! We have someone who is actually willing to go out on the proverbial limb and make a prediction.

Bravo!
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Re: Response To Criticism and the Road Ahead

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harmony wrote:

It would be difficult to prove that a relationship in which the stepfather sent the stepson to UBR could be further damaged. This family was dysfunctional and had been for years.


I don't think Eric is the least bit dysfunctional.

It's quite possible the stepfather knew little about the UBR other than it promoted Mormonism and would accomodate Eric and keep him away from home. Certainly, the step father was being abusive by sending Eric away.

I do think based on what the dad wrote via DCP that he is not dealing from a full deck and it is based on his literal beliefs in Mormonism.

Nothing Eric has said indicates to me that he isn't rational, that he ever deserved abusive treatment, that he ever deserved to have his character maligned by both DCP & Bob. He appears to be an extremely level headed, intelligent, rational individual.

The abuse inflicted on him, pretty much stems from religious individuals, the step dad, DCP, Bob and to some extent the school, wanting to control and punish Eric for not toeing the line when it comes the Mormonism. DCP and Bob have taken no interest in investigating the school, but instead have focussed their interest on attempting to discredit and malign Eric.

So I don't think you can assume Eric has anything to do with dysfunction in the family. But I think you can assume that the Church's teachings is a factor in the step dad's dysfunctionality. You can assume that the Church is affliated with the school and allows itself to be connected to the program it offers.
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