The Missing Pieces

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_Kishkumen
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The Missing Pieces

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Needless to say, I have no real involvement in any of this, but I am intrigued by recent developments. The departure of Scratch was a real blow, and now GoodK's threat to sue Mr. Peterson. I have to say I am more torn about this. Of course, I am no fan of Mr. Peterson and his rhetorical smoke and mirrors, but I fear that there will be nothing but losers in any legal action involving discussions here.

I am generally happy that I had nothing to do with any of this. Indeed, I feared that something like this might happen. I figure the best policy would be to stay out of it, but there is something that greatly intrigues me as someone who abhors Utah Mormon culture and its multi-level-marketing soul. I am intrigued by the psychology of GoodK, whom I genuinely believe to be a victim of Mormonism.

The question is, who is the primary offender? Sure, we can vaguely pin the blame on Mormonism, but someone had to be the one to administer the pain and suffering more directly. My guess is that Mr. Peterson is the target of hostility that might actually be more fairly directed at someone else. That person just might be GoodK's stepfather.

I did a little research on this fellow and found, if I am right, that he is tangled up in two troubling streams of Mormon culture: Coveyism and Mopologetics. Indeed, he is something of a motivational speaker, earning thousands of dollars to inspire people to be "real leaders." All I can say is that GoodK has my utmost sympathies. I hate the snake-oil salesmen of the Moproductivity crowd with their slick gospel of "success" and religious hypocrisy. Covey was a real piece of work, always arriving late, speaking too long, and sipping iced-tea on Sundays in the country club dining room.

Of course, I do not know GoodK's stepfather. I suppose I could be completely wrong. My apologies in advance if I am. My sympathies if I am not. My advice would be to let this DCP thing go. I am so sympathetic to your anger, man. Really. But this is just asking for grief. If there is one thing I have learned about the Mormon aristocracy and their supporters it's this: they will grind you down and make you wish you had never tangled with them.
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Kishkumen wrote:Needless to say, I have no real involvement in any of this, but I am intrigued by recent developments. The departure of Scratch was a real blow, and now GoodK's threat to sue Mr. Peterson. I have to say I am more torn about this. Of course, I am no fan of Mr. Peterson and his rhetorical smoke and mirrors, but I fear that there will be nothing but losers in any legal action involving discussions here.

I am generally happy that I had nothing to do with any of this. Indeed, I feared that something like this might happen. I figure the best policy would be to stay out of it, but there is something that greatly intrigues me as someone who abhors Utah Mormon culture and its multi-level-marketing soul. I am intrigued by the psychology of GoodK, whom I genuinely believe to be a victim of Mormonism.

The question is, who is the primary offender? Sure, we can vaguely pin the blame on Mormonism, but someone had to be the one to administer the pain and suffering more directly. My guess is that Mr. Peterson is the target of hostility that might actually be more fairly directed at someone else. That person just might be GoodK's stepfather.

I did a little research on this fellow and found, if I am right, that he is tangled up in two troubling streams of Mormon culture: Coveyism and Mopologetics. Indeed, he is something of a motivational speaker, earning thousands of dollars to inspire people to be "real leaders." All I can say is that GoodK has my utmost sympathies. I hate the snake-oil salesmen of the Moproductivity crowd with their slick gospel of "success" and religious hypocrisy. Covey was a real piece of work, always arriving late, speaking too long, and sipping iced-tea on Sundays in the country club dining room.

Of course, I do not know GoodK's stepfather. I suppose I could be completely wrong. My apologies in advance if I am. My sympathies if I am not. My advice would be to let this DCP thing go. I am so sympathetic to your anger, man. Really. But this is just asking for grief. If there is one thing I have learned about the Mormon aristocracy and their supporters it's this: they will grind you down and make you wish you had never tangled with them.


You are wrong about the step-father. He obtained a master's degree from Claremont. He is an executive consultant and a motivational speaker. I have never heard him once mention Stephen R. Covey. He may have once worked for Covey's organization, but that isn't his bag now.
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rcrocket wrote:You are wrong about the step-father. He obtained a master's degree from Claremont. He is an executive consultant and a motivational speaker. I have never heard him once mention Stephen R. Covey. He may have once worked for Covey's organization, but that isn't his bag now.


Shocking. My research indicates that Stephen R. Covey recruited him. I guess his talent agents could be engaging in false advertising. But Bob Crocket knows better, clearly.

As far as what his bag is, the product speaks for itself.
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Kishkumen wrote:
rcrocket wrote:You are wrong about the step-father. He obtained a master's degree from Claremont. He is an executive consultant and a motivational speaker. I have never heard him once mention Stephen R. Covey. He may have once worked for Covey's organization, but that isn't his bag now.


Shocking. My research indicates that Stephen R. Covey recruited him. I guess his talent agents could be engaging in false advertising. But Bob Crocket knows better, clearly.


Sure I do. He's independent.
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Kishkumen wrote:
rcrocket wrote:You are wrong about the step-father. He obtained a master's degree from Claremont. He is an executive consultant and a motivational speaker. I have never heard him once mention Stephen R. Covey. He may have once worked for Covey's organization, but that isn't his bag now.


Shocking. My research indicates that Stephen R. Covey recruited him. I guess his talent agents could be engaging in false advertising. But Bob Crocket knows better, clearly.


Sure I do. He's independent. And he's not a public figure, so leave him alone. That's pretty cowardly anonymously trashing a non-public figure.
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I'm trying to figure out what's so wrong with "7 Habits of Highly Effective People"?
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rcrocket wrote:Sure I do. He's independent.


I don't recall indicating anything otherwise. You old trickster, Bob. Always the diversionary tactics.
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Scratch, we missed you! It's so good to have you back as a sock-puppet.

What? You didn't think we could spot the telltale signs of a vintage Scratch post. The wording was the first big tipoff. It just has a certain flair to it that is hard to describe, but you know it when you read it. The next big tipoff was the expose on Grosskreutz's stepfather. I mean that is classic Scratch. And then to close with "they will grind you down and make you wish you had never tangled with them" is to give up the game.

By the way, how is Quinn doing?
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rcrocket wrote:And he's not a public figure, so leave him alone. That's pretty cowardly anonymously trashing a non-public figure.


How dramatic of you, Bob. You missed your calling. Soap opera actor may have been more your cup of tea. I am not "trashing" anyone. Silly Bob.
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harmony wrote:I'm trying to figure out what's so wrong with "7 Habits of Highly Effective People"?


I'll bet posting on Internet forums isn't one of them.
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