Honestly is next to godliness

[_Phaedrus Ut]

Remember, people, all that really matters is love. Love one another.

Paul O

Hey Paul, nice to see you back. The positive attitude is great.


Phaedrus

[_TAK]

Welcome back Paul, but sorry to disappoint, the Book of Abraham "controversy" bores the hell out of me.

I agree Ray, Book of Abraham is a non -starter for me. Mormonism starts and ends w/ the Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon .. they have been discredited enough to make Book of Abraham just beating a dead horse.

Paul I do agree on one point, "all that really matters is love. Love one another."

[_why me]

Mormonism starts and ends w/ the Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon .. they have been discredited enough to make Book of Abraham just beating a dead horse.

Really? Joseph Smith has been discredited and so has the Book of Mormon? How? I see no proof that the book was written by a fraudster. Nor, do I see any evidence that Joseph Smith was the fraudster who wrote the book. Now if Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon have been discredited, we also must say that sidney rigdon has been discredited. And then we have to include the 11 witnesses. And then we have to include emma. All have been discredited...right? And yet, I still see no proof.

[_silentkid]

I see no proof that the book was written by a fraudster. Nor, do I see any evidence that Joseph Smith was the fraudster who wrote the book. Now if Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon have been discredited, we also must say that sidney rigdon has been discredited. And then we have to include the 11 witnesses. And then we have to include emma. All have been discredited...right? And yet, I still see no proof.

And you'll never see it. It doesn't fit your paradigm. If you can accept that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon by reading words off of a magic rock that was placed in a hat, and that doesn't give you pause, you'll always believe.

[_KimberlyAnn]

I see no proof that the book was written by a fraudster. Nor, do I see any evidence that Joseph Smith was the fraudster who wrote the book. Now if Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon have been discredited, we also must say that sidney rigdon has been discredited. And then we have to include the 11 witnesses. And then we have to include emma. All have been discredited...right? And yet, I still see no proof.

And you'll never see it. It doesn't fit your paradigm. If you can accept that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon by reading words off of a magic rock that was placed in a hat, and that doesn't give you pause, you'll always believe.

My therapist said not to see you no more.
She said you're a disease without any cure!

Ah, you think you're so pretty.

Thanks. It's in my head now, SK.

KA

(Heee-EEE-eeee-eeeee)

[_Yong Xi]

Mormonism starts and ends w/ the Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon .. they have been discredited enough to make Book of Abraham just beating a dead horse.

Really? Joseph Smith has been discredited and so has the Book of Mormon? How? I see no proof that the book was written by a fraudster. Nor, do I see any evidence that Joseph Smith was the fraudster who wrote the book. Now if Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon have been discredited, we also must say that sidney rigdon has been discredited. And then we have to include the 11 witnesses. And then we have to include emma. All have been discredited...right? And yet, I still see no proof.

Maybe you'll just need to believe Joseph Smith was a fraud based on faith. Why do you believers always require faith to believe but proof to disbelieve? ......double sheesh!

[_Paul Osborne]

You have returned, Great Tiny-Waisted One!

Welcome back.

KA

Wow, you rememered! Actually, it's a little bigger these days, but still in great shape.

Paul O

[_Paul Osborne]

Greetings to all you who are actively and courageously seeking knowledge in the Book of Abraham controversy! All of you belong to a special class of people regardless of what side you are on.

Welcome back Paul, but sorry to disappoint, the Book of Abraham "controversy" bores the hell out of me.

That may be so, Ray, but I presume you have studied it to some degree. That makes you special - or at least in a special class of people who study controversial LDS topics. There are a great many LDS and nonLDS who don't know a thing about the subject other than a blurb or the knowledge that books have been written on the subject, both pro and con.

In the case of Hugh Nibley, he certainly wasn't bored with the subject but it could be argued that some of his material can get tedious and boring in itself. On the other hand, it could be argued that his material is exciting and full of genious. And the world continues to turn . . . .

Paul O

[_Paul Osborne]

YAY!!!!!!!!!

Paul is back!

We missed you Paul!

Glad you are well and sooooooooooo nice to see you!



~td~

I almost started a thread yesterday hoping for your return, and here you are... hmmm, something mysterious is going on! Maybe the stars are aligned, or some magical force called to you. Yeah, I bet that is it!

Your dancing avatar makes me smile and gives me a warm fuzzy! Truthfully, you're my favorite person on the board and have always been nice to me even when I didn't deserve it. I don't know exactly what's in the stars but I'm just popping in for the moment at least. It's been interesting being only a lurker and keeping my opinions to myself. I’ve learned that I don’t know as much as I thought I did.

Paul O

[_harmony]

I’ve learned that I don’t know as much as I thought I did.

Paul O

None of us do. Not even, or maybe especially not even our most learned ones.

Welcome back, Paul.