Mormonism's Greatest Downfall.

[_Yoda]

emotional trauma

I think that being involved in a plural marriage would have to be one of the most emotionally traumatic situations I could ever find myself in.

Gaz, you have stated in other threads on this site that if you found out that your wife slept with another man, you don't know that you could honestly forgive her, even if she was repentant.

Think about your wife being able to have sex with three or four other men, God-sanctioned. And, not only is she having sex with these men....she is confiding in them. She is sharing her innermost thoughts with them. She is making financial plans with them that will impact you, and the children you have fathered. When she is pregnant with a child from one of these other God-sanctioned "husbands", it is this other husband's hand that is protectively covering her belly. It is that other husband, smiling with pride, knowing that child is his. Your duty is to accept all of it quietly and cheerfully for the will of the Lord. You are to love all of these other children as your own...help provide for them...nurture and care for them. You are to never grumble at the fact that you haven't seen your wife in months because she is with another husband...spending time in another's bed...in another's arms....

We've had this conversation before.....Food for thought.

[_Doctor Scratch]

What I don't understand is why some apologists are so adamant that Joseph didn't have sex with his married wives. If he really was commanded to take them as wives, why the squeamishness about their being consummated? I don't get it.

Oh, come on, now. Contemporary Mormonism is astonishingly repressive and Victorian when it comes to sex. I recall DCP once arguing in favor of celestial artificial insemination over HF having good ol' fashioned sex in order to conceive the Christ child. Anyone who has read Foucault will understand exactly what the LDS Church is up to with all of this.

[_bcspace]

I think that being involved in a plural marriage would have to be one of the most emotionally traumatic situations I could ever find myself in.

Two conflicting ideas here. Can you see the problem?

Think about your wife being able to have sex with three or four other men, God-sanctioned. And, not only is she having sex with these men....she is confiding in them. She is sharing her innermost thoughts with them. She is making financial plans with them that will impact you, and the children you have fathered. When she is pregnant with a child from one of these other God-sanctioned "husbands", it is this other husband's hand that is protectively covering her belly. It is that other husband, smiling with pride, knowing that child is his. Your duty is to accept all of it quietly and cheerfully for the will of the Lord. You are to love all of these other children as your own...help provide for them...nurture and care for them. You are to never grumble at the fact that you haven't seen your wife in months because she is with another husband...spending time in another's bed...in another's arms....

I wouldn't have a problem with it if I went into a situation like that.

[_Ray A]

She goes on: "The thing these people seem to forget is that plural marriage isn't just about having different women in different bedrooms. It's also about all the mundane and taxing details of having multiple families, and the responsibility that would come with that."

What responsibility? Visiting them once a year? They looked after themselves, just as polygynous wives today do. They helped each other. Because that's what women in polygyny do. How many offspring of plural wives knew their father well? They were always on missions, or attending to "Church duties". The fathers sometimes had trouble remembering the children's names!!!

[_Runtu]

That's not what I said, John. Go back and read what I actually said. Don't draw your conclusions based on how people responded to my statement.

Had I directed my comments to you and what you actually said, you might have a point, William.

[_Pokatator]

Think about your wife being able to have sex with three or four other men, God-sanctioned. And, not only is she having sex with these men....she is confiding in them. She is sharing her innermost thoughts with them. She is making financial plans with them that will impact you, and the children you have fathered. When she is pregnant with a child from one of these other God-sanctioned "husbands", it is this other husband's hand that is protectively covering her belly. It is that other husband, smiling with pride, knowing that child is his. Your duty is to accept all of it quietly and cheerfully for the will of the Lord. You are to love all of these other children as your own...help provide for them...nurture and care for them. You are to never grumble at the fact that you haven't seen your wife in months because she is with another husband...spending time in another's bed...in another's arms....

I wouldn't have a problem with it if I went into a situation like that.

So would you be OK with Tommy Monson sending you across the pond on a mission and then having him marry your wife while your gone?

That's what Joe did.

[_bcspace]

I wouldn't have a problem with it if I went into a situation like that.

So would you be OK with Tommy Monson sending you across the pond on a mission and then having him marry your wife while your gone?

If I went into it? Sure.

[_Pokatator]

So would you be OK with Tommy Monson sending you across the pond on a mission and then having him marry your wife while your gone?

If I went into it? Sure.

So did Joe give his fellow brethren a choice to "go into it"?

You are hedging your answers with conditions.

[_Yoda]

I wouldn't have a problem with it if I went into a situation like that.

Would you willingly choose that type of situation, though? And, can you honestly say that it would not, at least be, emotionally difficult?

Think honestly and really put yourself in that position before answering. Don't BS your way through it.

Think about the connection you have with your wife, and the intimacy you share....I'm not just talking about sex, here.

[_William Schryver]

She goes on: "The thing these people seem to forget is that plural marriage isn't just about having different women in different bedrooms. It's also about all the mundane and taxing details of having multiple families, and the responsibility that would come with that."

What responsibility? Visiting them once a year? They looked after themselves, just as polygynous wives today do. They helped each other. Because that's what women in polygyny do. How many offspring of plural wives knew their father well? They were always on missions, or attending to "Church duties". The fathers sometimes had trouble remembering the children's names!!!

More hyperbole, Ray?

It just spews out of you sometimes.

Or are you intentionally perpetuating caricatures because it suits your new-found calling as "Anti-Mormon Activist"?

Remember the curse, Ray. Remember the curse. You don't want to push things too far ...