Dr. Shades, a word with you please?

[_Dr. Shades]

I'm not sure about Shade's determination that it's okay to post an email and not okay to post a PM, but all right. It's his board and he sets the rules--so it doesn't have to make sense to me or anyone else, it just needs to be honored by Board users.

Thank you. The reason is because messages sent via PM ipso facto take place between registered users, which means the original sender could've just posted his or her thoughts to the board but deliberately chose not to. So it goes with the chat room: The expectation is that the communications will last only temporarily.

E-mail, on the other hand, may originate with someone who is not a registered user, and so it may be tougher to determine whether the originator intends it to remain private or not.

Besides, it's far, far easier for me to justify moderating things that occur entirely within the confines of this board's software. I don't think it's entirely ethical for me to attempt to moderate things that occur outside this board and its software, like e-mail.

[_marg]

The only name calling marg indulged in was with me, and I have no problem with her inability to control her emotions when dealing with me.

I think you are making that up, you like to do that sort of thing. I don't recall losing control over my emotions with regards to you, I recall ignoring your posts.

[_Jersey Girl]

A note to those currently posting on this thread, especially Ray.

This thread was intended to be about the use of images/material in Avatars, taken from the blog of another poster.

We've had similar situations prior with the image of LoaP, but that was posted within the text field of the post. This situation had to do with an Avatar.

Stop making this the "after party" for another existing thread.

[_Yoda]

In addressing the original OP--

Do posters feel that other posters should be allowed to post unauthorized pictures of board members' family members, or not?

[_Jersey Girl]

In addressing the original OP--

Do posters feel that other posters should be allowed to post unauthorized pictures of board members' family members, or not?

What was that? An on-topic post? :-)

I'm trying to sort this out.

I think no pictures of MDB members or their family members should be posted on the board unless the poster his/herself posts them.

I think no email content should be posted on the board by an author who hasn't granted permission.

That's all I've come up with so far.

Definitely not photos of family members, of that I'm certain.

I'm a bit sketchy on blog entries being posted here. I don't think that personal blog entries should be posted by anyone else but the author.

Where does SHIELDS fit in to that?

It gets a little "grey" for me when it comes to blog entries.

[_Doctor Scratch]

In addressing the original OP--

Do posters feel that other posters should be allowed to post unauthorized pictures of board members' family members, or not?

Liz---

I don't really think that GoodK did anything wrong. I wish you guys could have done something to crop out Crockett's wife, or something along those lines. I agree with Ray that Jersey Girl was out of line here.

[_Yoda]

In addressing the original OP--

Do posters feel that other posters should be allowed to post unauthorized pictures of board members' family members, or not?

Liz---

I don't really think that GoodK did anything wrong. I wish you guys could have done something to crop out Crockett's wife, or something along those lines. I agree with Ray that Jersey Girl was out of line here.

So you would be OK with someone getting a hold of your wife's picture and posting it here without your consent, or your wife's consent? That's what we're talking about here, Scratch. It's a principle. If it's free reign for one to do it, then it's free reign for all.

As far as cropping the picture, with the current bulletin board software, that is not an option. Besides that, don't you think the more mature option is to ask the poster to voluntarily remove it himself?

[_truth dancer]

Hi Liz,

In addressing the original OP--

Do posters feel that other posters should be allowed to post unauthorized pictures of board members' family members, or not?

I do not think posters should be allowed to post pictures of board members or their families.

Having clearly stated this, I also think people should realize that if they post personal information about themselves and their families it potentially can be used in all sorts of ways, some of which may not be appreciated.

I don't like it but this is the world in which we live.

Further, if you taunt, harass, or harm others, there is a good chance you may be the recipient of similar behavior.

~td~

Just to be really clear, I am NOT saying anyone is justified in using anothers photo. I do not like it one bit.

I'm saying if you throw sand in someones face they may throw sand in yours. You know, tit for tat, and all that.

[_Yoda]

I do not think posters should be allowed to post pictures of board members or their families.

Having clearly stated this, I also think people should realize that if they post personal information about themselves and their families it potentially can be used in all sorts of ways, some of which may not be appreciated.

I don't like it but this is the world in which we live.

Further, if you taunt, harass, or harm others, there is a good chance you may be the recipient of similar behavior.

~td~

Just to be really clear, I am NOT saying anyone is justified in using anothers photo. I do not like it one bit.

I'm saying if you throw sand in someones face they may throw sand in yours. You know, tit for tat, and all that.

I completely agree with you. And, frankly, since Eric had the picture posted in his avatar for a few weeks before it was noticed by any of the Mods, he basically had "had his fun" in taunting Bob, based on what Bob had done to him. I'm not stating here that Bob was some kind of angel in this situation. I also recognize that Bob has made some very blatant mistakes in posting his full name here, and leaving an in real life trail with his blog, his resume, etc.

However, since we are striving for consistency here, once the avatar was discovered, it needed to be addressed. The only thing that happened here, folks, was that Eric was asked to remove it.

Bob is also a member of this community, and he deserves the same type of treatment everyone else here would expect to receive in the long run.

As far as this thread here goes.....I think that Jersey Girl brought up some good general issues that are worth discussing going forward.

How does this community feel about other board members posting unauthorized pictures of family members? This is the time to discuss this.

If you folks really have no issues with this, then maybe we need to reconsider our actions going forward. The decision is ultimately up to Shades...but I don't think it hurts hearing how members feel about it.

[_truth dancer]

Hi Liz,

One more little point, (not trying to derail the thread... smile), but would anyone (aside from those who personally know Bob), know the photo was of Bob if he had not announced it to the board? I had no idea who it was nor cared, actually.

I do NOT like the idea of posting photos of board members or their family and friends and am not trying to justify this in any way.

Having said this, one has to wonder why Bob clearly wanted the board to know the avatar was photo was of him and his wife. I find it odd that Bob would announce it as he did, if he was so concerned the photo was posted.

While Eric may have wanted to irritate Bob, certainly Bob was tattling to taunt Eric. If Bob cared at all that the photo was on the board he would not have announced it as he did.

NOT that it is appropriate to share photos or private information of board members and their families.

Just my two cents!