Why Does Bill Hamblin Hate Sunstone?

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_William Schryver
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Re: Why Does Bill Hamblin Hate Sunstone?

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CaliforniaKid wrote:
William Schryver wrote:Yeah, that sounds like a plausible theory.

I have a testimony that Will Schyrver is not a bad person, so it really doesn't matter how implausible it seems to you or how poorly you think it accords with the evidence. You're biased, anyway.

Blah, blah, blah ...

The real question is whether or not you've chosen to permanently abandon the whole missing scroll length debate? I was so much hoping for you to present at Sunstone on that topic.

By the way, I found this picture of you carrying back your accolades from Sunstone West:

Image
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Re: Why Does Bill Hamblin Hate Sunstone?

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Kevin Graham wrote:
I have a testimony that Will Schyrver is not a bad person


I bear my testimony that Will Schryver is not a bad person. He's just dumb as all get out.

I say these things in the name of cheese and rice, amen.

Speaking of idiots ...

You know, your last shipment of "detailed explanation" on the dittograph issue ran out before I was able to write more than about a page and a half. And you did promise to provide more, if I recall correctly. So where is it, Cracker Man? You've simply got to have something more than that first load of ... succinct argumentation. :lol:
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Re: Why Does Bill Hamblin Hate Sunstone?

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why me wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:Well, why me, as I posted earlier, this is not the first time that Prof. Hamblin has shown his true colors in this fashion. He posted an extraordinarily disgusting rant on RfM some years ago, rather similarly to this new round of anti-semitism on the aptly named MADboard. So, I'm wondering: what do you think "triggered" the "outburst"? Do you think it was because posters had accurately and correctly identified the "Butthead" incident as the thing that led to Hamblin's hatred for Sunstone?

I think that the key to your post are the words some years ago. An occasional outburst is understandable and forgiveable.


But we need to bear in mind that Hamblin has a well-documented history of potty-talk, ranting, and angry outbursts. It's not as if these were two isolated incidents. He has rather consistently demonstrated that this is a pattern of behavior.

But constant abusive language is more problematic. I think that bill has his own reasons for not liking sunstone. He could be a political reaction or a moral reaction. Or it could be something personal from his past with the organization. He would need to come here and clarify it. But if he did that the critics on this board would be all over him and not very pleasantly I might add.


Let's face it: the most likely explanation, all things considered, is that he feared the fallout over his "Metcalfe is Butthead" screw-up. Indeed, he has failed miserably when it comes to the 4th Scenario.
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Re: Why Does Bill Hamblin Hate Sunstone?

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While you're over here whacking off to your accomplishments, you might want to head back to home base where maracuja has just taken seige of your precious article.
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Re: Why Does Bill Hamblin Hate Sunstone?

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Runtu wrote:
William Schryver wrote:Well, you're satisfactory as a scrimmage partner, but only if I tie one hand behind my back and put on a blindfold. :wink:


That seems your general approach to apologetics: blind and half-baked. :lol:

OK, that's a mild improvement on the average, but still even mediocre for the rookie league, let alone the Majors.

And, frankly, I don't have any more time today to coach you along. So go home and practice a little. Read some Ann Coulter. I couldn't care less about her politics, but she's one of the finest polemicists alive today. If Ann Coulter were an anti-Mormon, then I could really have some fun. Alas, I'm left with you sad excuses for competition.

Oh, well. I don't mean to complain. I know you're trying your best. And I really do appreciate your efforts. But effort just can't make up for what talent only can supply. :wink:

Anyway, it has been mildly diverting, and has helped me get through a long day of coding javascript without going postal on my wife or the dog.

Did I mention that hell is not a lake of fire and brimstone? Hell is the DOM.

Have a nice weekend, John. And don't forget we've still got lunch to do sometime soon. Do you like Osaka on Center Street?

Or wherever.

I'm easy. (Just like Kimberly Ann! :lol:)

As long as it's not Chuck-o-Rama, Chili's, Applebee's, TGI Friday's, Wingers, Marie Callender's, ... well, you get the idea.
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Re: Why Does Bill Hamblin Hate Sunstone?

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Kevin Graham wrote:While you're over here whacking off to your accomplishments, you might want to head back to home base where maracuja has just taken seige (sic) of your precious article.

I'm so excited! I've never been beseiged before.

But it will have to wait for the time being. I have a date with my mistress, Miss Fender. And when her strings need touching in that special way, only my fingers know how ...
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Re: Why Does Bill Hamblin Hate Sunstone?

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I'm so excited! I've never been beseiged(sic) before.


Did you mean besiege?

OK, now you're just being ironical.
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Re: Why Does Bill Hamblin Hate Sunstone?

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William Schryver wrote:You know, John, let me give you a little hint here. If you want to play in the polemical big leagues, you’ve simply got to 1) become a more astute observer of human nature; 2) sense and be ready to spring upon every irony that presents itself without hesitation and without fear; and 3) you’ve got to have a talent for it.


Irony is ubiquitous. Those with strong arguments do not succumb to attempts to control the debate by pointing out irony. It is a common ploy used on both sides, but pointing out irony does not persuade.
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Re: Why Does Bill Hamblin Hate Sunstone?

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Here are Quite a few of the ridiculous Quotes in a few of the Posts from Bill Hamblin on the MA&D Board, with links to them there:


Yesterday, 11:29 AM:

Imagine a symposium on Jewish Studies in which the majority of presenters are Neo-Nazis, Holocaust deniers, Anti-Semitic international banking conspiratorialists, and atheist Jews who regularly heap contempt upon the beliefs and practices of Orthodox Jews, etc. Even if there are a number of papers given at the conference which treat Orthodox Jewish scholars, people, beliefs, practices traditions, and scripture with respect, do you think Orthodox Jews would flock to this conference to present papers, especially given the fact that there are many venues to present papers where Jewish studies are treated with respect? Even if the conference organizers literally begged Orthodox Jews to come to their conference, do you really think it would be "irrational bias" for Orthodox Jews to stay away?

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Link: http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... 1208659075



Yesterday, 12:03 PM:

Do you understand what the fallacy of the perfect analogy is?

It's a simple analogy. Begging an orthodox Jew to attend a conference where the majority of the presenters are anti-Semitic is analogous to asking and orthodox Mormon to attend Sunstone, and then blaming the orthodox Mormon of having an irrational bias because he doesn't want to attend. Get it? Well, probably not I suspect.


Link: http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... 1208659108



Yesterday, 12:12 PM:

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The most irrational and hateful anti-Mormon rant I have ever heard have been at Sunstone. And let me tell you, I've heard some good ones.

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Begging an orthodox Jew to attend a conference where the majority of the presenters are anti-Semitic is analogous to asking and orthodox Mormon to attend Sunstone, and then blaming the orthodox Mormon of having an irrational bias because he doesn't want to attend. Get it?


Link: http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... 1208659119



Yesterday, 12:32 PM:

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You can no more expect a Mormon to enjoy going to a conference with widespread anti-Mormonism than you can expect a Jew to enjoy going to a conference with widespread anti-Semitism.

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Link: http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... 1208659162
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Re: Why Does Bill Hamblin Hate Sunstone?

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Clearly the man is persistent in his dumbf**kery.
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