A Glimpse at SHIELDS' Financing

[_harmony]

Juliann exists to worship the ground Daniel walks on.

[_Kishkumen]

Juliann exists to worship the ground Daniel walks on.

Is there a secret infatuation going on there? Is Juliann married? Do you think she might fantasize about being sealed to Daniel in the hereafter?
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[_harmony]

Juliann exists to worship the ground Daniel walks on.

Is there a secret infatuation going on there? Is Juliann married? Do you think she might fantasize about being sealed to Daniel in the hereafter?
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I wasn't thinking of that, specifically. I just think she admires him to the point of worship, and she uses whatever means she has to smooth his path. Kinda like the handmaidens of old. I don't see the reciprocal. They may be friends; I doubt that they are close friends. They aren't in the same league intellectually (although Juliann's attempts at climbing that ladder are hilarious) or economically.

Juliann's first husband was a nonmember and he passed away following a lengthy illness. I doubt she's married again. She was a student at Claremont for a while, but I think that has gone the way of the economy.

As for the plural wife question, Juliann doesn't like polygamy much so I don't see her thirsting after that particular experience.

[_Analytics]

Gee, for a volunteer organization that is hard-up for funding, this doesn't seem very appreciative! This in particular is a classic: "All donations must be anonymous as far as the public is concerned (you must do it because you believe in what SHIELDS is doing and want no glory for your financial assistance)."...

Doing more web arcive research, their "guidelines for accepting contributions" was added sometime after November 24 2001 and before April 7 2002. That is the same time period when the "In Affiliation with FAIR" logo was removed from the top of the SHIELDS home page.

http://web.archive.org/web/200111240457 ... nancia.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/200204071722 ... nancia.htm

2. All donations must be anonymous as far as the public is concerned (you must do it because you believe in what SHIELDS is doing and want no glory for your financial assistance).
3. All donations must have no strings attached. We will continue to run SHIELDS as we always have.

Clearly the Stan, Gene, and Malin want all of the glory and want to be able to run SHIELDS exactly the way they want to. They explicitly created this policy to refuse donations that would threaten their glory or control within a few months of the FAIR merger failing. Coincidence?

[_Kishkumen]

I just think she admires him to the point of worship, and she uses whatever means she has to smooth his path. Kinda like the handmaidens of old. I don't see the reciprocal. They may be friends; I doubt that they are close friends. They aren't in the same league intellectually (although Juliann's attempts at climbing that ladder are hilarious) or economically.

So, perhaps she hopes for some quid pro quo in the future. She treats Daniel like a king now, and then when the time comes for her to grab for more power, he might remember all of her past good services and so forth. Interesting.

I have no doubt that she is not Daniel's intellectual equal. Although I hate putting anyone down in this way, she reminds me more of Drippy intellectually. She has her pet topic(s?) she has read up on, but when she strays from that limited territory, the quality of her input plummets. Daniel is a well-rounded intellectual.

Juliann's first husband was a nonmember and he passed away following a lengthy illness. I doubt she's married again. She was a student at Claremont for a while, but I think that has gone the way of the economy.

A moving story, and I don't like to see anyone suffer like this. Maybe she is now "a eunuch for the Kingdom of God" as it were. She has transferred all of the energy of healthy, human passions into her overlordship of MAD and so forth. And now her Claremont dreams have gone up in smoke? Sigh. It is a pity, since I was looking forward to her exposure to real scholarship bringing some balance to her views.

As for the plural wife question, Juliann doesn't like polygamy much so I don't see her thirsting after that particular experience.

Well, clearly I was mistaken on that account. She has sublimated her passion for Daniel as the alpha male of Mopologetics. It expresses itself in how she "puts out" favors and protects his interests.

[_harmony]

I just think she admires him to the point of worship, and she uses whatever means she has to smooth his path. Kinda like the handmaidens of old. I don't see the reciprocal. They may be friends; I doubt that they are close friends. They aren't in the same league intellectually (although Juliann's attempts at climbing that ladder are hilarious) or economically.

So, perhaps she hopes for some quid pro quo in the future. She treats Daniel like a king now, and then when the time comes for her to grab for more power, he might remember all of her past good services and so forth. Interesting.

I have no doubt that she is not Daniel's intellectual equal. Although I hate putting anyone down in this way, she reminds me more of Drippy intellectually. She has her pet topic(s?) she has read up on, but when she strays from that limited territory, the quality of her input plummets. Daniel is a well-rounded intellectual.

Juliann's first husband was a nonmember and he passed away following a lengthy illness. I doubt she's married again. She was a student at Claremont for a while, but I think that has gone the way of the economy.

A moving story, and I don't like to see anyone suffer like this. Maybe she is now "a eunuch for the Kingdom of God" as it were. She has transferred all of the energy of healthy, human passions into her overlordship of MAD and so forth. And now her Claremont dreams have gone up in smoke? Sigh. It is a pity, since I was looking forward to her exposure to real scholarship bringing some balance to her views.

As for the plural wife question, Juliann doesn't like polygamy much so I don't see her thirsting after that particular experience.

Well, clearly I was mistaken on that account. She has sublimated her passion for Daniel as the alpha male of Mopologetics. It expresses itself in how she "puts out" favors and protects his interests.

Not all things are sexual, Kish. I think it feels more like comrades in a common cause, with Daniel as the 5 Star Wizard General and Juliann as the Keeper of the Keys to the Dungeon. Dinner at the High Table with the real movers and shakers every couple of years is all that's required for faithful service.

[_Kishkumen]

Not all things are sexual, Kish. I think it feels more like comrades in a common cause, with Daniel as the 5 Star Wizard General and Juliann as the Keeper of the Keys to the Dungeon. Dinner at the High Table with the real movers and shakers every couple of years is all that's required for faithful service.

Sure, harmony.

[_Doctor Scratch]

I get the distinct impression that the FAIR powers figured out that Stan is a nutcase and realized it would be better for their own credibility to distance themselves from him.

Possibly. That entire group strikes me as extremely paranoid. They had their own founder, Darryl Barksdale, removed from the organization. Later they sent Richrd Hopkins to outer darkness, claiming he had misused funds, and then of course, they banned me from the FAIR e-list at least two years before I went through apostasy because I made Allen Wyatt look like an absolute fool. One can tell from the way they run their web forum, and the manner in whch they immediately censor posts and muzzle posters they don't like, that they are extremely paranoid.

This has Juliann written all over it.

Kevin, do you by any chance know why Barksdale was forced out? Did the Mopologists have a legitimate reason for booting him, or was it more just a matter of juliann's whim?

It is odd (or fitting?) how the "upper tier," FARMS guys kind of just sit back, playing deus ex machina with all of this intrigue. That is: do they ever actually get their hands dirty in all of this, or do they just sort of sit back, letting them fight with one another, and the come piggybacking in on the "grunts" whenever their spite gland kicks into overdrive?

[_Doctor Scratch]

Gee, for a volunteer organization that is hard-up for funding, this doesn't seem very appreciative! This in particular is a classic: "All donations must be anonymous as far as the public is concerned (you must do it because you believe in what SHIELDS is doing and want no glory for your financial assistance)."...

Doing more web arcive research, their "guidelines for accepting contributions" was added sometime after November 24 2001 and before April 7 2002. That is the same time period when the "In Affiliation with FAIR" logo was removed from the top of the SHIELDS home page.

http://web.archive.org/web/200111240457 ... nancia.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/200204071722 ... nancia.htm

2. All donations must be anonymous as far as the public is concerned (you must do it because you believe in what SHIELDS is doing and want no glory for your financial assistance).
3. All donations must have no strings attached. We will continue to run SHIELDS as we always have.

Clearly the Stan, Gene, and Malin want all of the glory and want to be able to run SHIELDS exactly the way they want to. They explicitly created this policy to refuse donations that would threaten their glory or control within a few months of the FAIR merger failing. Coincidence?

Analytics,

Thanks for posting this stuff. It's fascinating. I think that you have pretty clearly established that there was a falling out of some kind between FAIR and SHIELDS. What was it, though? Was it simply a matter of control? Or, were there legitimate arguments pertaining to methods, or what?

[_harmony]

Was it simply a matter of control? Or, were there legitimate arguments pertaining to methods, or what?

Perhaps it had to do with education and the assumed respect accompanies it that the FAIR/FARMS crew craves like an addict craves his drug of choice? What letters follow Stan and company's names? Any PhD's? In order to be admitted into the Top Tier, one must have a Phud behind one's name.