SMPT in Claremont in Less Than Two Weeks

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Kishkumen wrote:Maybe I am a little confused here, but I thought it was pretty clear that Gad was joking around. Why would anyone take this seriously enough to "catch him in the lie"? Furthermore, why would we take the person who is doing that "catching" very seriously?

It seems to me like this thread is a pointless joke.


Perhaps it was a joke, as I mentioned above. However, barring this being a joke, Gad was not being honest. Gad can clarify.
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LifeOnaPlate wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:Thank you for admitting that your only purpose here is to attempt to smear Gad's credibility. As I noted earlier, this sure says plenty about your character, young man.


Truth is the best defense against libel, Mister Scratch.


A nice attempt at side-stepping accountability. Whether Dr. Robbers responds or not, your attempts at smearing have been duly noted. I daresay that your character has been permanently besmirched by your behavior.

Does Lamanite agree? It seems to me that your account was warped in an effort to fulfill a Mopologetic agenda. That it "fulfilled a requirement for a class" is just a coincidence and a rather poor attempt on your part to make it seem as if you weren't trying to score apologetic brownie points. Honestly, LoaP, who do you think you're fooling here? You are even more of a suck-up than Will Schryver and Scott Lloyd.


Absolutely Lamanite agrees.


I'm glad to hear that Lamanite agrees that you were trying to score apologetic brownie points.

You're lying now yourself. You clearly want to strike a blow against Gadianton.


Nope, just wanted everyone to know Gad was simply blowing smoke. If only you would hold him to the same standard that you hold me.


Actually, I think that Dr. Robbers's participation in the SMPT Conference was quite profound in terms of what it says about Mopologetics. You really are clueless here, aren't you?

You are angry that he has repeatedly embarrassed you by way of his signature line (in which you very foolishly slipped up and admitted that FARMS has "monolithic" qualities---hey, maybe at least your honesty is improving a bit), and you wanted to lash out in the hopes of damaging his credibility.


I couldn't care less about his signature line. I'm certainly not angry about it, I think it is rather silly and out of context.


"Silly and out of context" = Mopologese for "I am writhing with hate, frustration, and a need for vindication." I have seen the rage in your eyes, LoaP. You were brimming with the need to lash out even in the Kerry Shirts FAIR conference videos. You want revenge.


I ask again: what does this say about your character, Blair? What would Richard Bushman and the other SMPT folks think if they knew you'd been up to this kind of thing?


In all honesty most of these folks would wonder why I would waste more than 30 seconds even responding to this nonsense.


Oh, I bet your right, since, vis-a-vis your character, it shows that you are a remarkably cheap and petty individual who is fueled by a need for revenge. In other words: you are a perfect Mopologetic protege.


CFR. If you so genuinely care about "credibility," then you are going to need to provide documentary evidence that Shipps approved of your Mopologetic fluff piece.


She sent me a personal email in response to the blog post, which someone else showed her. That's as much as I need to say on the subject.


No, I'm afraid not. For all we know, Shipps merely said "Hello, I enjoyed the cab ride," or something like that. You have provided no evidence that she approved of you using her for your own, opportunistic, Mopologetic ends.
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Kishkumen wrote:Maybe I am a little confused here, but I thought it was pretty clear that Gad was joking around. Why would anyone take this seriously enough to "catch him in the lie"?


It's as I've said, Reverend: LoaP is a very angry young apologist who very, very badly wants to hurt the critics. Whether this is a result of something that happened on his mission, or whether it is simply some personal attribute of his, is anybody's guess. Also: recall that DCP had attempted to blacken Dean Robbers's character over this issue. LoaP, as I have noted, is very much the suck-up, especially to DCP, and so it makes great sense that he would jump on this particular bandwagon.

by the way: I have it on pretty good authority that The Good Professor delivered quite a smear-sermon of his own. When will the text be online, I wonder? For some reason, DCP seems to have gotten his paper accepted sans any kind of abstract. At any rate, the SMPT website never posted his abstract. I wonder why?
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Doctor Scratch wrote:A nice attempt at side-stepping accountability. Whether Dr. Robbers responds or not, your attempts at smearing have been duly noted. I daresay that your character has been permanently besmirched by your behavior.


Agree to disagree.

I'm glad to hear that Lamanite agrees that you were trying to score apologetic brownie points.


Lamanite agrees there were no "lies" involved.

Actually, I think that Dr. Robbers's participation in the SMPT Conference was quite profound in terms of what it says about Mopologetics. You really are clueless here, aren't you?


He didn't participate at all.

"Silly and out of context" = Mopologese for "I am writhing with hate, frustration, and a need for vindication." I have seen the rage in your eyes, LoaP. You were brimming with the need to lash out even in the Kerry Shirts FAIR conference videos. You want revenge.


Agree to disagree.

I'm done responding to your nonsense.
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I, too, believed that Gad was serious. Liz appeared to have taken his claim as genuine as well.

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I thought it was a running gag along the lines of Cassius University.
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beastie wrote:I thought it was a running gag along the lines of Cassius University.


I am of the same thought. For Gad to present at a conference would require that he uncloak. Somehow I don't think they would allow him to give an address and be known simply as "Gadianton". I just thought it was one more instance when he poked Daniel and company.
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beastie wrote:I thought it was a running gag along the lines of Cassius University.


Precisely.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:by the way: I have it on pretty good authority that The Good Professor delivered quite a smear-sermon of his own. When will the text be online, I wonder? For some reason, DCP seems to have gotten his paper accepted sans any kind of abstract. At any rate, the SMPT website never posted his abstract. I wonder why?


Was your "good authority" in the room, or did he/she read a phantom transcript?
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LifeOnaPlate wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:A nice attempt at side-stepping accountability. Whether Dr. Robbers responds or not, your attempts at smearing have been duly noted. I daresay that your character has been permanently besmirched by your behavior.


Agree to disagree.


You claim to be doing something other than "smearing"? And what, pray tell, might that be? I'd be willing to bet that this his been a major-league bee in your bonnet for quite some time. I bet that you tried very strenuously to find out everything you could about Dr. Robbers and his presentation. You really are hell-bent on revenge and attack, aren't you?

I'm glad to hear that Lamanite agrees that you were trying to score apologetic brownie points.


Lamanite agrees there were no "lies" involved.


The way you presented your encounter with Shipps was deeply distorted by your own hubris, LoaP. You used the "interview" in an extraordinarily opportunistic way.

Actually, I think that Dr. Robbers's participation in the SMPT Conference was quite profound in terms of what it says about Mopologetics. You really are clueless here, aren't you?


He didn't participate at all.


That's like saying that apologists for Book of Mormon historicity have never given obviously BoM-historicity-related presentations at legit academic conferences, or that Book of Mormon historicity articles have never passed peer review in legit scholarly journals.

"Silly and out of context" = Mopologese for "I am writhing with hate, frustration, and a need for vindication." I have seen the rage in your eyes, LoaP. You were brimming with the need to lash out even in the Kerry Shirts FAIR conference videos. You want revenge.


Agree to disagree.

I'm done responding to your nonsense.


Of course you're "done." Such is the Mopologetic way. Go back and let your hatred stew a bit more. I'm sure we'll hear from you again the next time you think you can exact revenge.
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