Nightlion wrote:... Atheist need to deny all divinty in my mind. ...
I'm not quite sure how you mean that.
I assume it is official LDS doctrine, and so the statement is not dependent upon what is in your mind or not in your mind.
If I'm correct so far, then we can move on.
If I deny the existence of ALL the gods in the Bible, but still affirm my own divinity, then I am not an atheist -- right?
If I deny the existence of ALL the gods ever mentioned by human beings, but still affirm the divinity of the Universe, (or "The Force" or the Buddhist "Clear Light of the Void") then I am not an atheist -- right?
So far so good?
Now -- for the last question.
If I deny ALL the divinity of all the entities ever considered by human beings, but I still affirm Divinity itself -- still affirm the Divine aspect of existence -- am I a theist or an atheist?
Uncle Dale
ps -- By the way -- I do not affirm the precept that Joseph Smith, Jr. is currently mingling with "gods" so he can plan for his brethren -- nor that Smith is, or ever will be, anybody's worshiped God ------ (just for the record).
I guess there is nothing funny about an atheist. You have given him a cancer that knows no end to the rot.
JFTR I do not believe in the LDS franchise notion of God. Perhaps nobody believes in the same God that I know. Yes. I am certain that if the details matter I am quite alone in my belief of that God whom I know and trust.
So advancing in the knowledge of God consumes every notion of God that preceeded it. So we believe in the true God as far as we understand correctly.
I am not going to start thinking like you. Yeah, nice try fella. Uh uh. Nope. ain't gonna happen.
When I read this guy, I can't help but think of one of the religious wingnut characters from a Stephen King novel. It's just that nonsensical (and makes me appreciate just how good a writer King is, to mimic such insanity so accurately). The "Stone Cut Out Of The Mountain Without Hands" thing you keep repeating sounds exactly like the sort of meaningless catch phrase that type of character would use over and over.
All I can say is that I'm glad you're not an atheist, Nightlion. I might actually start to worry about the strength of my position.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
Some Schmo wrote:When I read this guy, I can't help but think of one of the religious wingnut characters from a Stephen King novel. It's just that nonsensical (and makes me appreciate just how good a writer King is, to mimic such insanity so accurately). The "Stone Cut Out Of The Mountain Without Hands" thing you keep repeating sounds exactly like the sort of meaningless catch phrase that type of character would use over and over.
All I can say is that I'm glad you're not an atheist, Nightlion. I might actually start to worry about the strength of my position.
Hey, Schmo, I am no one stringed instrument. I am the whole harpsichord.
Nightlion wrote:... The audience wants belly laughs...
hmmmm.....
Well then --
Did you hear about the two atheists who walked into a bar? The first says to the second, "Who was that lady I saw you with last night?"
And the second one answers -- "That was no lady, that was Madalyn Murray O'Hair!"
Pretty funny, eh?
UD
An atheist takes his dog to the vet. The vet says, your dog is dead. The atheist just can't believe it so the vet grabs a cat and throws it on the dog. The cat is all over it scratching, hissing and pawing away and the atheist says, yeah, I guess he is dead, what do I owe you doc? That will be $545 dollars. How's that? Forty-five for the visit and five-hundred for the cat scan.
Some Schmo wrote:When I read this guy, I can't help but think of one of the religious wingnut characters from a Stephen King novel. It's just that nonsensical (and makes me appreciate just how good a writer King is, to mimic such insanity so accurately). The "Stone Cut Out Of The Mountain Without Hands" thing you keep repeating sounds exactly like the sort of meaningless catch phrase that type of character would use over and over.
All I can say is that I'm glad you're not an atheist, Nightlion. I might actually start to worry about the strength of my position.
Spot on Schmo.
I am expecting him to start repeating "my life for you" and torching old ladies pension checks.
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning