The Anti-Atheist: Part 1

[_Nightlion]

I too would that you were hot or cold.

I wish I knew what the hell that was supposed to mean. Seriously.

It refers to what Christ told the Church of the Laodiceans in John"s Revelation chapter 3 verse 15.

Waffling? What in my post gave you that idea? I put the same amount of credence in the idea of flying pink elephants as I do god/satan. That's unlikely to change until I'm presented with concrete evidence. I don't think that's too much to ask.

Your trying to evade doing any work. If someone gave you the proof that required you do the math and work it out and strive to be diligent so that you make no mistake and get help if you need it to expertly apply every application so that the predicted results and evidence is manifested you would stand there and demand proof before hand and ridicule and mock the entire experiment just to get out of it. How can that me an exageration? That is what scoffers do.

Is there a reason why I should not be confident in the idea that someone should present testible evidence if they expect others to believe their claims? Sorry, but I don't believe anyone's story without evidence, or at the very least, it should be plausible.

I never said anything about a tingley feeling. When the gospel is accomplished correctly so that the promised results are manifested you are visited by the power of Almighty God who then performs an act of creation upon your heart, mind and soul. Undergoing such a mighty transformation that creates a new creature is nothing slight or vague or transitory. It makes you a completely different person with added powers and abilities that were not present a few seconds before.
You are given to exist on a higher plane that sees and understands what those on the natural common plane cannot even guess at. This is the same state of all the ancient saint who came to know the Lord.

God has chosen this act to prove himself unto man. He wants to create in us this new heart. Only God can so powerfully and fundamentally change us. You will dismiss this as insanity or drugs wierd brain chemistry. That is just stupid scoffing.

And if you need hard, in your face evidence that God exists then Mount Olympus in Salt Lake City is that hard, factual, observable proof that God cut out of the mountain without hands that splendid work of art for his Strange Act of the last days. To repudiate not only the LDS hypocrisy but the apostate, atheist, learned fools that fill up the whole earth. It would not be nice to return to destroy the world without giving everyone a great big proof. WHOSE ON THE LORD'S SIDE?

[_Analytics]

And if you need hard, in your face evidence that God exists then Mount Olympus in Salt Lake City is that hard, factual, observable proof that God cut out of the mountain without hands that splendid work of art for his Strange Act of the last days. To repudiate not only the LDS hypocrisy but the apostate, atheist, learned fools that fill up the whole earth. It would not be nice to return to destroy the world without giving everyone a great big proof. WHOSE ON THE LORD'S SIDE?

Neffs Cave, the second-deepest cave in Utah (13th deepest in America) is in Mount Olympus. Is this the hard, factual, observable proof to which you refer? Could you clarify what, specifically, this is proof of?

If I completely understand your point on this, I think it will greatly increase your satisfaction when God destroys me.

[_Nightlion]

And if you need hard, in your face evidence that God exists then Mount Olympus in Salt Lake City is that hard, factual, observable proof that God cut out of the mountain without hands that splendid work of art for his Strange Act of the last days. To repudiate not only the LDS hypocrisy but the apostate, atheist, learned fools that fill up the whole earth. It would not be nice to return to destroy the world without giving everyone a great big proof. WHOSE ON THE LORD'S SIDE?

Neffs Cave, the second-deepest cave in Utah (13th deepest in America) is in Mount Olympus. Is this the hard, factual, observable proof to which you refer? Could you clarify what, specifically, this is proof of?

If I completely understand your point on this, I think it will greatly increase your satisfaction when God destroys me.

Neff's cave is just ancillary to what Mount Olympus is all about. I understand that they have never found the bottom of Neff's cave. And I am not suggesting that this is the proof of the bottomless pit into which the wicked are cast either. I posted a lecture on my web site that is already dated but it tells the tale. http://www.fireark.org

If I could get a little help on exactly how to post images perhaps I could put one up that depicts all thirteen actually fourteen observable fact or ancient relics of provable archaeological evidence of the existence of God also proving that Jesus Christ is God.

[_Some Schmo]

I never said anything about a tingley feeling.

Well, I was being slightly sarcastic, but the point remains.

When the gospel is accomplished correctly so that the promised results are manifested you are visited by the power of Almighty God who then performs an act of creation upon your heart, mind and soul. Undergoing such a mighty transformation that creates a new creature is nothing slight or vague or transitory. It makes you a completely different person with added powers and abilities that were not present a few seconds before.

I've had life-changing epiphanies before too, events that seemed to completely change who I was, but it never made me think, "God must have done that." Again, profound/powerful experiences happen to everyone, but not everyone thinks the source is divine.

You are given to exist on a higher plane that sees and understands what those on the natural common plane cannot even guess at. This is the same state of all the ancient saint who came to know the Lord.

I never cease to be amazed at a religious person's tendency to make crap up and then state it as fact.

God has chosen this act to prove himself unto man. He wants to create in us this new heart.

Oh look! He's speaking on god's behalf. Why am I not surprised?

Only God can so powerfully and fundamentally change us.

Wrong. Only we can "so powerfully and fundamentally change" ourselves. You give this imaginary friend of yours all the credit for something you're quite capable of doing to yourself.

You will dismiss this as insanity or drugs wierd brain chemistry. That is just stupid scoffing.

I don't attribute the change to insanity, just the misattribution to some god creature. Make sure you get that straight. The change is possible; no god needed (and really, thinking some god is needed only confuses the issue, as you've demonstrated repetitively in this thread).





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[_Nightlion]

I don't attribute the change to insanity, just the misattribution to some god creature. Make sure you get that straight. The change is possible; no god needed (and really, thinking some god is needed only confuses the issue, as you've demonstrated repetitively in this thread).
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You have no idea what sort of change I am talking about.
Scoffers insanely reinvent terms as if they own the meaning of all things. Such megalomaniacal tendancies preclude rational discussion.
When I say God did it. You do not get to say God did not do it and take control of all terms insisting that it has to mean what you want it to mean. That is stupid.

You are asking for a proof of God. You cannot poop all over what is given to you and blubber in your stools that it has to be what you want it to be. Clinically you show more indications of grandious delusions that what you attribute to me. Who made you the GREAT DEFINER OF ALL THINGS?

"MEH HEH HEH! I AM THE CENTER OF ALL THINGS *THE GREAT KNOWER *THE IT *THE IT. did I already say that?...WELL, THE IT." Some Schmo

[_Mercury]

You have no idea what sort of change I am talking about.
Scoffers insanely reinvent terms as if they own the meaning of all things. Such megalomaniacal tendancies preclude rational discussion.
When I say God did it. You do not get to say God did not do it and take control of all terms insisting that it has to mean what you want it to mean. That is stupid.

You are asking for a proof of God. You cannot poop all over what is given to you and blubber in your stools that it has to be what you want it to be. Clinically you show more indications of grandious delusions that what you attribute to me. Who made you the GREAT DEFINER OF ALL THINGS?

"MEH HEH HEH! I AM THE CENTER OF ALL THINGS *THE GREAT KNOWER *THE IT *THE IT. did I already say that?...WELL, THE IT."

IRONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are continuing to loose what little credibility you have. You need help. Seek it. I don't want to be the one who stood back and didn't testify to you that you need help. I want you to get help and I want you to be a productive member of society.

My efforts are part shaming you and attempting to convince you that you are mentally unstable. That is unless this is all an elaborate joke and you are laughing behind your monitor but quite frankly its pretty conclusive you belong in a mental institution.

Seek help now from a psychiatric professional before you waste another minute of your life.

[_Some Schmo]

I don't attribute the change to insanity, just the misattribution to some god creature. Make sure you get that straight. The change is possible; no god needed (and really, thinking some god is needed only confuses the issue, as you've demonstrated repetitively in this thread).
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You have no idea what sort of change I am talking about.
Scoffers insanely reinvent terms as if they own the meaning of all things. Such megalomaniacal tendancies preclude rational discussion.
When I say God did it. You do not get to say God did not do it and take control of all terms insisting that it has to mean what you want it to mean. That is stupid.

You are asking for a proof of God. You cannot poop all over what is given to you and blubber in your stools that it has to be what you want it to be. Clinically you show more indications of grandious delusions that what you attribute to me. Who made you the GREAT DEFINER OF ALL THINGS?

"MEH HEH HEH! I AM THE CENTER OF ALL THINGS *THE GREAT KNOWER *THE IT *THE IT. did I already say that?...WELL, THE IT." Some Schmo

LOL - rational discussion? That's pretty rich, coming from you.

Take control of all the terms? You mean like defining god? No, I'll leave that up to you.

Tell me, oh wise one... what other meaning could "God did it" have other than "God did it"? Is it redefining it to say "God didn't do it"? LMAO

Or how about "change?" Did I reinvent what "change" means? I guess I'm not understanding or I'm redefining what you mean when you say "change" unless I interpret it to mean "really really really big change?"

Oh, I see. Maybe you're trying to play the "you don't know what a profound experience is" card, huh? If only I had experienced what you experienced, then I would know too, right? Oh, whoa is me; I'm not one of god's chosen and don't get the fun god experiences. What a rip. I guess god doesn't love me as much.



Pretty funny, man.

Again, if you don't like the scoffing, quit saying crap that's begging to be scoffed.

[Guest]

Mercury wrote:


"Wow dude, if I knew where you were I'd call the state mental health authorities to get you brought in so as to prevent another elizabeth smart"


that's what I was sort of thinking while reading this guy - nightlion - are you typing this stuff up inside a prison.

[_mledbetter]

Mercury wrote:


"Wow dude, if I knew where you were I'd call the state mental health authorities to get you brought in so as to prevent another elizabeth smart"


that's what I was sort of thinking while reading this guy - nightlion - are you typing this stuff up inside a prison.

Worse, he could be free somewhere...
Just keep an eye on your children.

[_Mercury]

Mercury wrote:


"Wow dude, if I knew where you were I'd call the state mental health authorities to get you brought in so as to prevent another elizabeth smart"


that's what I was sort of thinking while reading this guy - nightlion - are you typing this stuff up inside a prison.

Does the complex of delusions that NL uses as a shell to prop up his nonexistent ego indicate he is quite capable of criminal acts ala elizabeth smart, John D Lee and Joseph Smith.

At his core is a confused and empty boy sucking at the teat of insanity to justify what is probably a sad existence.

I pity him. I really really do.