Polygamy--What if...

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Your implication is that you so hope that I will be kicked out for my thoughts.


Even the Romans recognized the difficulty of controlling what a man thinks. Yet that is a lot of what Mormonism seems to try to do. When you're cheated can you smile and say, "Boy that tastes great!" To a large extent, it's also what mainstream liberalism tries to do. That black man just busted through your car window and took your GPS. Now don't you feel sorry for him and his situation that he had to do that. You should feel like going and pledging a monthly check to him right now. If you don't feel that way, than we're going to try to shame you into feeling that way with hate words like, "racist." I think it's good that people have to live in different cultures. Before I left my protected environment, I didn't understand what all the fuss was about. Then I saw the unspoken side of the argument.

It always amazed me how many women saw me as their personal property. On the one hand they were cold and hateful to me, but that didn't stop them from getting angry and jealous when another girl would pursue me. Guess what, you don't own me. Nor will you ever control how I feel about a given situation by dictating to how I'm supposed to feel.
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harmony wrote:
Did you expect me to cower and hide? My leaders know what I think, and they know my testimony, and they go forth with faith, as do I. Your implication is that you so hope that I will be kicked out for my thoughts. I am the one Christ went looking for, why me. You are one of the 99 who stayed behind, whispering and complaining.

I think that you are mistaking. You are not sharing your thoughts about Joseph Smith. But you are sharing your beliefs and quite frankly, they are not at all mainstream. I have seen nothing positive about the LDS church coming from your computer, only negative and to call Joseph Smith a fallen prophet along with Brigham would not be popular. Thoughts are fine, but your beliefs are quite another matter for a temple recommend holder.
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ajax18 wrote:
Your implication is that you so hope that I will be kicked out for my thoughts.


Even the Romans recognized the difficulty of controlling what a man thinks. Yet that is a lot of what Mormonism seems to try to do.

Thoughts are one thing but beliefs are quite another matter. If half the LDS actively believed what harmony believes there would be a huge split and divide,especially if they were vocal about it in church. ¨To claim like harmony that Joseph Smith was a fallen prophet is not a worthy temple holder and it is on the verge of apostacy. Not that I care one way or other, but I have seen her posts, and they are not very supportive of LDS policies.
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why me wrote:Thoughts are one thing but beliefs are quite another matter. If half the LDS actively believed what harmony believes there would be a huge split and divide,especially if they were vocal about it in church. ¨To claim like harmony that Joseph Smith was a fallen prophet is not a worthy temple holder and it is on the verge of apostacy. Not that I care one way or other, but I have seen her posts, and they are not very supportive of LDS policies.


If half the LDS membership believed what I believe, we'd all do a better job of following the gospel of Jesus Christ. Unfortunately, all too many of us believe as you do, why me. I don't follow prophets, when they don't lead me to God. In my life, I alone am the one who determines if and when the prophet is speaking as God's mouthpiece; not you, not anyone else tells me what to do.

You cannot trip me up with the temple recommend questions, why me. I probably know them better that you do. The TR question does not ask me to support Joseph as a prophet. The TR question asks me if I have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel. Since I can answer that with a "yes", you have nothing to say. I sustain my prophet, who is not Joseph Smith or Brigham Young. My prophet is Thomas Monson. I am only required to sustain him; I am not required to sustain past prophets.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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why me wrote:Thoughts are one thing but beliefs are quite another matter. If half the LDS actively believed what harmony believes there would be a huge split and divide,especially if they were vocal about it in church. ¨To claim like harmony that Joseph Smith was a fallen prophet is not a worthy temple holder and it is on the verge of apostacy. Not that I care one way or other, but I have seen her posts, and they are not very supportive of LDS policies.


If half the LDS knew what Harmony knows about Joseph Smith, "there would be a huge split and divide, especially if they were vocal about it in church."
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liz3564 wrote:I thought this might be an interesting topic of discussion.

What if...The laws on the books with polygamy were relaxed and polygamy was legal.

At this point, what if President Monson called a special meeting and asked the Saints to begin practicing plural marriage again?

This question is primarily for the active LDS folks.

How would you react? Would you be eager to participate? How would you counsel your daughters?


What I don't get is that polygamy as practiced by the FLDS (minus the whole sexual slavery perpetuated on minors) is not polygamy in the eyes of the law. They are legally married to their first wife and spiritually married to their other wives. Whats illegal with that outside of Bigamy laws?

Someone correct me if I'm off base.
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