To Whom is God Talking?
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truth dancer,
I'm not sure that I understand what's wrong about one thinking that God communicates with them. Can you explain why you think it's wrong/odd/ or whatever?
I'm not sure that I understand what's wrong about one thinking that God communicates with them. Can you explain why you think it's wrong/odd/ or whatever?
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huckelberry wrote:It may not occur to people who point to themselves as special conduits of Gods message. The evedence? The special conduits tend to be full of both themselves and drivil.
You talking to me Huckels? If you don't believe in anything then an abundance of faith based original thinking and wonderful gospel insights must be drivil. You want to insult with acuity latch onto one thing said and have at it.
How is anything from me about myself? To wit:
1. Kept the knowledge and experience of real Zion against the tide of apostasy and fearfulness that overcame the entire LDS Church. And I teach that with expertise abundantly so that no one needs to misunderstand. That people reject it is of no moment. They have had ample scripture telling them the same things which they also reject.
2. Reinterpreted LDS theology on such a vast scale as to fully outclass and outrank every slight attempt of the entire LDS cadre of supposed thinkers who have to date only floundered to add one cubit to the stature of LDS knoweldge.
3. Current on scripture interpretations relevant to our present day.
A. Unmasked the Man of Sin the son of perdition and his legacy of a falling away prophecied by the apostle Paul. Included all the key points of this in current LDS history. See what I say about Lorenzo Snow.
B Discerned the secret machinations that flipped the LDS Church from Christ's commandments and the causes of his Zion to self centered aggrandizements, awarded to all in blasphemous defiance of God, for money and votes, to become a mere managed commodity.
C. Unveiled that we are presently living in the fulfillment of the age of Satan's lying wonders, (2 Thessalonians)MODERN SCIENCE that has annihilated faith.
Examples: A car is a lying wonder that we can fly
A TV is a lying wonder that we see visions
A recording or radio is a lying wonder of gifted hearings.
The empowerment of these trinkets not only first enslaves mankind for their acquisition but blind the people with a pride that knows no bounds and rides a tide of self importance and wretched entitlement as to disallow meekness and eliminate contrition from the hearts of all men. This is why religion is ever learning and never able to get at the truth. They have been spiritually emasculated by these very sorceries.
D. Unveiled the prophetic Mount Olympus the Ensign to the Nations and the stone cut out of the mountains without hands that is the singular and paramount marker of the second coming of Jesus Christ. This is the first event of God's intrusion into our world. He sets up a relic of revelation that he is God and Jesus is the Messiah. One of the most pivital events in world history as time will soon tell.
4. My web site is chock full of art and wise writings that are of note to any mind wise enough to value spiritual gifts. And to the end that no seated apologist of staged tenure will sally forth from their lairs to confront the least of my words; I remain unassailable in forty years of putting it out there. They shut their mouths at me.........look it up.
I don't think drivil is a believable insult. Your choice certainly. Unsupportable by evidence. Experience is the only credible evidence.
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Interesting that I am slated as competition with these two for getting revelation. Who am I to defer? I challenge both of you. I'm not sure how prophetic rivalries are settled.
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The Nehor wrote:Interesting that I am slated as competition with these two for getting revelation. Who am I to defer? I challenge both of you. I'm not sure how prophetic rivalries are settled.
Apparently Elijah settled it with fire:
1 Kings 18:23 Let them therefore give us two bullocks; and let them choose one bullock for themselves, and cut it in pieces, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under: and I will dress the other bullock, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under:
24 And call ye on the name of your gods, and I will call on the name of the Lord: and the God that answereth by fire, let him be God. And all the people answered and said, It is well spoken.
Not sure how that would translate to an internet challenge, though.
Maybe calling down a firey screensaver?
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AlmaBound wrote:The Nehor wrote:Interesting that I am slated as competition with these two for getting revelation. Who am I to defer? I challenge both of you. I'm not sure how prophetic rivalries are settled.
Apparently Elijah settled it with fire:
1 Kings 18:23 Let them therefore give us two bullocks; and let them choose one bullock for themselves, and cut it in pieces, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under: and I will dress the other bullock, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under:
24 And call ye on the name of your gods, and I will call on the name of the Lord: and the God that answereth by fire, let him be God. And all the people answered and said, It is well spoken.
Not sure how that would translate to an internet challenge, though.
Maybe calling down a firey screensaver?
Yes, but it didn't really work for Elijah. He did the whole routine and the people got whipped up enough to kill off some pagan priests but the real effect was almost nothing. In the next chapter he's alone again.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics
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Jersey Girl wrote:truth dancer,
I'm not sure that I understand what's wrong about one thinking that God communicates with them. Can you explain why you think it's wrong/odd/ or whatever?
Likewise, I'm not sure that I understand what's wrong about one thinking that space aliens communicates with them. Can you explain why you think it's wrong/odd/ or whatever?
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The Nehor wrote:Yes, but it didn't really work for Elijah. He did the whole routine and the people got whipped up enough to kill off some pagan priests but the real effect was almost nothing. In the next chapter he's alone again.
Sure seemed to have an effect on the people watching:
1 Kings 18:39 And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces: and they said, The Lord, he is the God; the Lord, he is the God.
Maybe that was the point. Maybe it wasn't supposed to be about Elijah at all.
But then again, maybe not. Who knows, maybe it was just for fun, if in fact it happened at all.
At any rate, you don't see too much of that sort of thing anymore.
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Hey Jersey Girl,
I am not saying anything is wrong with it and I think the phenomenon is far from odd, in fact it seems almost common place.
What does strike me as something worth contemplating is what God is saying to those to whom "he" speaks.
Hearing the claims of these men does make me wonder about God.
Is God really talking to all the men who make the claim? How would they know if they were being deceived? Can or should humankind trust all those who claim God is giving them truth? In whom should one put their faith? Why would God choose these particular men (and others who make the claim)?
Just to be clear I am not asking about those who are intuitive, or feel they are moved, inspired, or prompted in some way (I think most of humankind has these sorts of experiences); I'm talking about those who believe God has singled them out to actually speak to them as one man (God) to another man (not yet God), or in some cases, one God to another God (smile).
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Morrissey wrote:Jersey Girl wrote:truth dancer,
I'm not sure that I understand what's wrong about one thinking that God communicates with them. Can you explain why you think it's wrong/odd/ or whatever?
Likewise, I'm not sure that I understand what's wrong about one thinking that space aliens communicates with them. Can you explain why you think it's wrong/odd/ or whatever?
I am not saying anything is wrong with it and I think the phenomenon is far from odd, in fact it seems almost common place.
What does strike me as something worth contemplating is what God is saying to those to whom "he" speaks.
Hearing the claims of these men does make me wonder about God.
Is God really talking to all the men who make the claim? How would they know if they were being deceived? Can or should humankind trust all those who claim God is giving them truth? In whom should one put their faith? Why would God choose these particular men (and others who make the claim)?
Just to be clear I am not asking about those who are intuitive, or feel they are moved, inspired, or prompted in some way (I think most of humankind has these sorts of experiences); I'm talking about those who believe God has singled them out to actually speak to them as one man (God) to another man (not yet God), or in some cases, one God to another God (smile).
~td~
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The Nehor wrote:Interesting that I am slated as competition with these two for getting revelation. Who am I to defer? I challenge both of you. I'm not sure how prophetic rivalries are settled.
Well Nehor, I don't know how they're settled either. BUT, I'm putting my money on You Bro.
One of the other two--B...Ku--seems to have too much class for a down-&-out prophetic brough-haw. The other, Nightlion, would surprise me if his "Walk" could keep up with his "Talk". Ya know what I'm sayin'??
He's certainly no match for Huckleberry who could blow everyone away if he'd care to... Maybe first money on Huck. Second money on Nehor. What about the Snake-Stick-trick? Anybody up for that one?
Geez, just imagine, there was a time when this silliness was taken seriously! How could that have been? Faith and gullability! Now it's just fun on a dull day... Let the game begin ;-)
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Roger Morrison wrote:Geez, just imagine, there was a time when this silliness was taken seriously! How could that have been? Faith and gullability! Now it's just fun on a dull day... Let the game begin ;-)
I take such things seriously. The best silliness I've ever had was about serious things. Elijah probably took his contest very seriously yet he still had some fun mocking the priests of Baal. Good times.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics
"I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
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