Master of your Domain

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Re: Master of your Domain

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mentalgymnast wrote:As with many other issues discussed on this board and others like it, context is left far behind as a wayfarer. You take two sentences out of my post and make an "irony" point and then go on your merry way...

We all have a habit of doing that. Not a stellar thing to brag about.


The context is appropriate. If "secrecy" should be greeted with caution in masturbation, then it should be greeted with even more caution in regard to surreptitious polygamy.

mentalgymnast wrote:For the last couple or three years now I've been a bit more open to looking at the world and also religious things (and particularly "the Mormon story") in greater context. It's made a world of difference.

Try it. Not everything can be shrink wrapped.


In other words, you're well on your way to post-modernism, which is a sort of: Mormonism (17th Revised Edition).
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EAllusion wrote:
karl61 wrote:The “worldly” alternative is that we should pursue our sexual urges wherever they take us, utterly without limits.


Yes, there are two choices out there. Pursue every sexual urge, however ephemeral and no matter the consequences for oneself or others, or don't masturbate.

If only there was some other alternative. Alas!

ROFL. Well done, once again. EAllusion, you cut wonderfully to the chase.
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So no one could come up with better advice on how to stop masturbating? I rest my case.

Did you bother to read my advice on page 1 of this thread, BC?

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8996&p=236807#p236807


Of course not! But now I have.

I don't think that the primary argument here has been that the advice given by the Church about how to stop is necessarily wrong. It is the approach the Church uses in giving the advice.


Which, as I said before in repsonse to a previous attempt, is not really what I was asking for. I was asking for advice in the context of what the Church already teaches, not that the teaching should be modified.

The other major disagreement that I, and others here have, is the severity of consequence. But then again, I am simply repeating myself.


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I don't get all the ruckus over masturbation. I really don't.

Who cares?

It's natural.

And it's no one's business.

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bcspace wrote:That's not a good question at all because LDS doctrine teaches self mastery as part of salvation. Therefore, it's going to be taught. Can you give better advice?

Uhhmmm....
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KimberlyAnn wrote:I don't get all the ruckus over masturbation. I really don't.

Who cares?

It's natural.

And it's no one's business.

KA


The Queen has spoken, the thinking has been done.

Actually it amazes me that a group of people can say so much about this topic (I'm speaking about Mormons, not "this" group). To me, as with most bizarre Mormon teachings, it's like talking about "if Cinderella made it back to the coach at midnight, rather than 11:59:59...would it have turned back into a pumpkin?

That's how compelling the topic is to normal people. But because it IS such a huge cause for guilt at an early age in mormondum, it is the primary issue that locks members into the church -- they always feel guilty for doing something they have been told they shouldn't...and they have to keep paying the penalty (remorse, repentence, etc.) by DOING more, and better, from now on. Thus the high depression and suicide rate in the church.

Answer? Get rid of the guilt. Despite what Mormons say, guilt is a damaging, fear-based emotion, and does more harm than good. Now I know this doesn't answer the question, but when you have my answer to the Cinderella dilemna, we'll talk.

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JonasS wrote:Hahaha do you know what it means to be the master of your domain??? Hahaa.

Actually, no, I never did figure it out.

Will you please explain it to me, JonasS?
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Actually, no, I never did figure it out.

Will you please explain it to me, JonasS?


We could use it in a sentence....

"Kramer is definitely not master of his domain."
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bcspace wrote:"Kramer is definitely not master of his domain."

??? Is that a Seinfeld reference?

I've never seen a full episode of Seinfeld, so I don't get the reference.
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"Kramer is definitely not master of his domain."

??? Is that a Seinfeld reference?


That's right. In one episode, they made a bet to see how long they could go without. They referred to it as being "Master of your Domain" (Hence the thread title). They agreed to work within the confines of the "honor system". Some very popular cultural references now. As anyone can imagine, they were subject to all sorts of temptation and Kramer lasted perhaps half the day.
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