The MADness of the gay marriage debate

[_Yoda]

Aww...Bracki! You're a romantic! Another reason I like you!

[_JohnStuartMill]

And selek continues, apparently privately admonished:

Darin, a far better person than you or I can hope to be has asked me to cut you some slack- so I'll clarify one point and walk away. I was not- either implicitly or explicitly- accusing you personally of engaging in or advocating on behalf of, child rape or murder. My point was- and remains- that for every tale of persecution and atrocity against gays that you can produce, reference, or invent, I can find one commited by gays. Your desperate need to maintain the victim status of gays is a manifestation of what I call the Jesse Jackson Principle. Victimhood is the only moral 'highground' your ideology can claim. Admission of wrong-doing on the part of your fellow travellers reduces that advantage, and as it is the only one you have, you are understandably loathe to part with it. That having been said, your approach is intellectually and rhetorically dishonest- and any victory you gain by dishonest means will be forever tainted- not to mention the corrosive effect it will have on your mind and soul. So...this is goodbye. Until you get your moral compass pointing back to north, I will have nothing further to do with you. And no, I don't believe your orientation is the particular lodestone skewing your path.

With Mormons like selek, who needs anti-Mormons? Steve Benson, pack your bags, go on a holiday to Tahiti, and rest assured that Mormonism will self-destruct.

Wow, selek is a douche and a half.

Just for fun, a letter to a "persecuted" Mormon:

Darin, a far better person than you or I can hope to be has asked me to cut you some slack- so I'll clarify one point and walk away. I was not- either implicitly or explicitly- accusing you personally of engaging in or advocating on behalf of, child rape or murder. My point was- and remains- that for every tale of persecution and atrocity against Mormons that you can produce, reference, or invent, I can find one commited by Mormons. Your desperate need to maintain the victim status of gays is a manifestation of what I call the Jesse Jackson Principle. Victimhood is the only moral 'highground' your ideology can claim. Admission of wrong-doing on the part of your fellow travellers reduces that advantage, and as it is the only one you have, you are understandably loathe to part with it. That having been said, your approach is intellectually and rhetorically dishonest- and any victory you gain by dishonest means will be forever tainted- not to mention the corrosive effect it will have on your mind and soul. So...this is goodbye. Until you get your moral compass pointing back to north, I will have nothing further to do with you. And no, I don't believe your religion is the particular lodestone skewing your path.

Is selek incapable of doing this very simple thought experiment?

[_Ray A]

Just for fun, a letter to a "persecuted" Mormon:


Is selek incapable of doing this very simple thought experiment?

And thus the prophecy of Alma is fulfilled:

6 And it came to pass in the *eighth year of the reign of the judges, that the people of the church began to wax proud, because of their exceeding riches, and their fine silks, and their fine-twined linen, and because of their many flocks and herds, and their gold and their silver, and all manner of precious things, which they had obtained by their industry; and in all these things were they lifted up in the pride of their eyes, for they began to wear very costly apparel.
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8 For they saw and beheld with great sorrow that the people of the church began to be lifted up in the pride of their eyes, and to set their hearts upon riches and upon the vain things of the world, that they began to be scornful, one towards another, and they began to persecute those that did not believe according to their own will and pleasure.
9 And thus, in this eighth year of the reign of the judges, there began to be great contentions among the people of the church; yea, there were envyings, and strife, and malice, and persecutions, and pride, even to exceed the pride of those who did not belong to the church of God.

[_JohnStuartMill]

Wow, that's spot-on. Maybe there's something to that Book of Mormon after all.

[_Ray A]

Wow, that's spot-on. Maybe there's something to that Book of Mormon after all.

I'm writing up a new thread on it now, "just for fun".

[_beastie]

I just checked in on that thread today - it's still going strong. Wade just told a poster he was "stuck on stupid", and when the poster replied that he would no longer interact with Wade due to the insults, he replied:

Finally, a break from the arid winds from atop mount inanity.

I was suspended previously for three days for referring to Wade's past "inane" homosexual threads on Z. Now I was suspended on this thread for three days for supposedly putting words in Charity's mouth. Yet Wade can flat out tell a poster he's stupid, and no reaction.

Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm "stuck on stupid" if any of this surprises me. It doesn't. I still enjoy pointing it out.

[_The Dude]

It's almost like Wade is one of the moderators, he's got that much confidence in telling people off with such putrid condescention. I wouldn't interact with him either, if I were allowed to post on MAD.

Was one of his gay Z threads built around an inane analogy of doorknobs and keys? Seems like I saw something reposted along those lines, or maybe it was a satire of that analogy on Kevin's site. LOL I would love to see that again if anyone knows what I am talking about.

[_beastie]

Oh, yes, Wade constructed a lengthy analogy on his defunct 'reach out to the gays' website that used the lock and key analogy. It was hilarious. I wish I had had the foresight to save his website, along with the threads he participated on on a gay board, trying to save gay souls by inviting them to his website... where he classified homosexuality along with pedophilia, bestiality, and necrophilia. You can't make this stuff up.

[_beastie]

Here's one of the numerous threads devoted to wade's website and analogy. On this thread, Wade admitted that the "center for the study of sexual attraction disorders" he kept referring to on the website actually had one member, and one member only: wade. Or maybe that was one of the other threads, but this is the only one that came up in a search.

http://pacumenispages.yuku.com/topic/8734?page=1

[_JohnStuartMill]

Someone needs to tell Wade that arguments by analogy are fallacious. That, and that he's a dumbass.