And New Hampshire makes it Six.

[_bcspace]

26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.

Unless vs. 30. Seems that only TBM's are able to take all verses into account.

[_bcspace]

http://www.pro-polygamy.com/

2009 Jun 04
NH’s "Same Sex Marriage" Law "Discriminates" Against Polygamy

Contrary to its supporters' claims, New Hampshire's new same sex marriage law does not provide "equal access to marriage for all." While even surprisingly codifying marriage for monogamous heterosexual minors, the new law intentionally "discriminates" against polygamous consenting adults.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

New Hampshire is the sixth State to legally recognized Same-Sex Marriage

Great news! Hopefully New York will soon follow to make it 7. This boat has sailed, folks ....

[_JohnStuartMill]

And what will the LDS Church do, if Polygamous Marriages start becoming legally recognized within a few of the States?

Wait for God's authorization ala 2 Samuel 12 and Jacob 2 etc.

Too bad Joseph Smith jumped the gun with Fanny, eh, BCSpace?

[_Brackite]

26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.

Unless vs. 30. Seems that only TBM's are able to take all verses into account.

Hi bcspace,

in my opinion, You have lost All Your Moral Authority and Moral right to use Jacob 2:30, as a loophole for the Lord God to allow (or command) Plural Marriage, to raise up seed, When You Stated:

Though I was thinking more along the lines of no additional marriage licenses being further evidence that these were not marriages of the type you critics want them to be. Perhaps the fact that there are no children from these sealings is the best evidence for that.

Since, You are now arguing that Joseph Smith did Not raise up seed through any of his Plural Marriages, You can't logically use Jacob 2:30, as a loophole for the Lord God to allow (or command) Plural Marriage, to raise up seed.


There is absolutely NO Evidence whatsoever, that the Phrase, 'raise up seed unto me', in Jacob 2:30, refers to that the Lord God will command His People to enter into the Practice of Polygamy. The Lord God intends to command His People to marry Monogamously, in order to be able to raise up a righteous seed unto Him. This is really meaning raising up righteous children, righteous sons and righteous daughters, unto the Lord God. It can and will be done through the Practice of Monogamy. The Lord God intends to raise up a righteous seed unto Him, through Monogamy, (NOT Polygamy), as can be clearly seen when correctly comparing Jacob 2:30 to 1 Nephi 7:1, and then correctly comparing 1 Nephi 7:1 to 1 Nephi 16:7-8.

Here is Jacob 2:30, Compared to 1 Nephi 7:1:

Jacob 2:30:

[30] For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.


1 Nephi 7:1:

[1] And now I would that ye might know, that after my father, Lehi, had made an end of prophesying concerning his seed, it came to pass that the Lord spake unto him again, saying that it was not meet for him, Lehi, that he should take his family into the wilderness alone; but that his sons should take daughters to wife, that they might raise up seed unto the Lord in the land of promise.

Here is Now 1 Nephi 7:1, Compared to 1 Nephi 16:7-8:

1 Nephi 7:1:

[1] And now I would that ye might know, that after my father, Lehi, had made an end of prophesying concerning his seed, it came to pass that the Lord spake unto him again, saying that it was not meet for him, Lehi, that he should take his family into the wilderness alone; but that his sons should take daughters to wife, that they might raise up seed unto the Lord in the land of promise.


1 Nephi 16:7-8:

[7] And it came to pass that I, Nephi, took one of the daughters of Ishmael to wife; and also, my brethren took of the daughters of Ishmael to wife; and also Zoram took the eldest daughter of Ishmael to wife.

[8] And thus my father had fulfilled all the commandments of the Lord which had been given unto him. And also, I, Nephi, had been blessed of the Lord exceedingly.

Nephi and his brethren took just one wife each, in order to be able to raise up seed unto the Lord God.
Nephi and his brethren did fulfill the Commandment of the Lord God, with them just taking one wife each, in order to be able to raise up righteous seed unto the Lord God.
A Righteous Man is able to raise up a righteous seed unto the Lord God, with having just one righteous wife.



Here is how Jacob Chapter Two, Verse 30 is Correctly interpreted and read:

[30] For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people [To Marry Monogamously]; otherwise they shall [will] hearken unto these things [The Sins of Polygamy].

A lot of LDS Apologists have read the words, 'shall hearken' in Jacob 2:30 as imperative, and/or as a commandment, 'must hearken.' However, I have found three other places in the Book of Mormon were the words 'shall hearken' occur. These three places in the Book of Mormon where the words shall hearken occur at are in 1 Nephi 14:1, 2 Nephi 3:23, and 2 Nephi 28:31.

Here is 1 Nephi 14:1:

[1] And it shall come to pass, that if the Gentiles shall hearken unto the Lamb of God in that day that he shall manifest himself unto them in word, and also in power, in very deed, unto the taking away of their stumbling blocks --

Here is 2 Nephi 3:23:

[23] Wherefore, because of this covenant thou art blessed; for thy seed shall not be destroyed, for they shall hearken unto the words of the book.

Here is now is 2 Nephi 28:31:

[31] Cursed is he that putteth his trust in man, or maketh flesh his arm, or shall hearken unto the precepts of men, save their precepts shall be given by the power of the Holy Ghost.

( I Bolded the Phrase 'shall hearken' in all these three Scriptural Passages. )


In all those three other Passages in the Book of Mormon, the words 'shall hearken' is Not read as imperative, and/or as a commandment 'must hearken,' but the words 'shall hearken' in those three places in the Book of Mormon is correctly read as 'will hearken.' The same thing also goes for Jacob 2:30. The words 'shall hearken' in Jacob 2:30 is Not read as imperative, and/or as a commandment 'must hearken, but the words 'shall hearken' in Jacob 2:30 is correctly read as descriptive, as 'will hearken.' A lot of the men of the People were willing to hearken unto the Sins of Polygamy. (Please See e.g. Jacob 1:15 & Jacob 2:34.).

Here is again how Jacob Chapter Two, Verse 30 is correctly interpreted and read:

[30] For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people [To Marry Monogamously]; otherwise they shall [will] hearken unto these things [The Sins of Polygamy].