The Death of Evolution

[_Dr. Shades]

The seven days of creation were given lyrically to help the people understand.

But He failed, since they didn't understand.

He could not have told them that he seeded the earth with interplanetary transports that traverse interdimensional space from one sphere to the next. The people understood days and so days it was.

So instead of teaching them something new, He chose to lie to them.

The scriptures tell us that this earth existed for billions of years before he planted the Flora and Fauna that is present today, and modern man as well.

No they don't, and you know it.

Besides, you're the one who just got done saying, "The people understood days and so days it was."

[_Nightlion]

I know that I can walk into any classroom in practically any country in the
world, where higher education is being offered, and be taught something
about evolution of species. Count all those teachers, administrators,
students, and approving parents/families, and they add up to hundreds
of millions of people who take natural selection in evolution of species
very seriously. They are all lying "egomaniacal God denyers," along with
all of the supporting/confirming scientists, researchers, technicians and
writers, who accept the Scientific Method? Give me a break: I'm not that stupid!

You yourself admit that God could bring forth new species ----- what is it
that prevents God from using natural selection to accomplish such a change
over a lengthy period of time?

UD

Worlds without number is a good species bank for all of creation. Man will not let go of thinking he is the center of the universe and the original it. Who is the father of such egomaniacal thinking? Yeah, that's right. SATAN!

So the weight of all the world accepting what they are told makes stupid anyong who will not go along? Okay, I'll be stupid then.

[_Nightlion]

Human thinking is an analog process, not a digital one. If we assume that others run the same mental programs as us, we're wrong in that. Each person's brain is trained, in hardware, to think in whatever ways they practice, from the time they're born, to the present.

Nightlion's brain is hard-wired to think this way. It would take more than you guys arguing with him on the Internet to counteract a lifetime of garbled mystical thinking implemented in the very neurons of his brain.

Yeah! And I got an upgrade at the age of eighteen.

[_Nightlion]

But He failed, since they didn't understand.

Lyrics are expressions adapted to your audience.

So instead of teaching them something new, He chose to lie to them.

He wanted them to organize around the idea of a week of days. This order has been of great benefil to humanity since. Connecting the creation to the civil order of life upon the earth does not imply a lie. Six days of creation could artfully account for his work. Six twenty-four hour periods is absurd.

No they don't, and you know it.

Yes they do and I know it.
Moses 2 and 3 accounts for the spiritual creation of all men, plants and animals. How long do you think it took to prepare a spirit creation for the billions and billions of humans, trillions and trillions of animals and googleplexes of plants? Is that a real number or did I just make that up?

Besides, you're the one who just got done saying, "The people understood days and so days it was."

Yes.

[_Nightlion]

And of course we know that LDS doctrine is that there is nothing for or against evolution or creationism in and of themselves.

I think a strong case could be made against these selections. I would hope there is no kettle/pot shenanigans going on here. tut tut tut

LDS doctrine is what? They have not even bothered to go through the LDS standard works and comb out LDS doctrine. I was the first to do it almost thirty years ago.

[_Uncle Dale]

...accept the Scientific Method...

...Who is the father of such egomaniacal thinking?
Yeah, that's right. SATAN!

So the weight of all the world accepting what they are told
makes stupid anyong who will not go along? Okay, I'll be stupid then.

The Scientific method is just that -- a method of discovery and explanation.
If its explanation of the origin of species is wrong, then use rational methods
to demonstrate that "all the world" wrong on this. -- Use human reason yourself.

Or, in your mind,
does Science=Satan?

UD

[Guest]

Human thinking is an analog process, not a digital one. If we assume that others run the same mental programs as us, we're wrong in that. Each person's brain is trained, in hardware, to think in whatever ways they practice, from the time they're born, to the present.

Nightlion's brain is hard-wired to think this way. It would take more than you guys arguing with him on the Internet to counteract a lifetime of garbled mystical thinking implemented in the very neurons of his brain.

Yeah! And I got an upgrade at the age of eighteen.

What did you do? Check out Neocortex somewhere void and started thinking Rat-Brain part?
I am sorry, I am a little harsh here but even if you show a picture of Brain to a little kid and explain to him, there are dozens of layers in it, with trillions of neurons, he'd grasp the basic principle of Evolution.
Nobody creates a Brain in one day, six thousand years or even a million years.
Brain is a product of time and God is the least qualified to create one.
I'll tell you why God is not qualified;
I run a medical clinic, my doctor sees over fifty kids a day; tell me how come some of them come with horrible afflictions
like Autism, Schizophrenia?
Wouldn't you think God would supply the brain with some basic cures?
After all we, worthless, sinful humans create computers but we also give some basic troubleshooting and protection against viruses.

Believe in elements that make sense, at least some sense, you seem to abandon common sense long ago though.

[_Nightlion]

The Scientific method is just that -- a method of discovery and explanation.
If its explanation of the origin of species is wrong, then use rational methods
to demonstrate that "all the world" wrong on this. -- Use human reason yourself.

Or, in your mind,
does Science=Satan?

UD

Doctors have a set of definitions by which the retain all power over their craft. So do lawyers. As do scientist. These are all priestcrafts.

I am fond of attributing all the wonders of our modern world to Satan in fulfillment of 2 Thessalonians 2. Only because the sum of our attitude holding all these bobbles and trinckets is to be proud and let them wash all faith, meekness and contrite fear of God out of our hearts. The spiritual violence of it has overcome faith on earth.

With so many aware of Zion, still there can be no Zion, not even a first step, since all have been spiritually spayed or neutered directly by the acceptance of our world in searing entitlements of what redounds to Satan's lying wonders.

All science that ignores God is Satan. God is not excluded from the real world except by forcing him out. All creation witnesses that there is a God. It is yet his sun that shines upon us. It was never deeded to Mr. Big Bang Guy. To deny this witness is to fight the war of Satan.

To vaunt up an alternative explanation of all things is like Satan's declaration, "surely I will do it, wherefore give me thine honor". The same objective is accomplished by forcing the idea that the Big Bang was just a natural thing and all creation was a random selection of an evolutionary process that bla bla bla anything to ignore God.

All Satan's warriors clad themselves in the armour of reason, and enlightenment, so called by them, to withstand God and seek to pluck faith out of existence. You can sense their lust to burnish they armour and add to their conciet as they control the thoughts of men.

[_Uncle Dale]

...
All science that ignores God is Satan.
...

I taught Science in South Asia, alongside another Science teacher
who worshiped Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.

Was my Science "good" because I am a Latter Day Saint --
and his Science "bad" because he was a Hindu?

For crying out loud! It was the SAME Science, presented by two
different guys who practiced different religions.

We left "God" out of our lessons, so that we would not get
side-tracked into useless arguments over different religions.

Are you mentally unable to deal with such facts?

UD

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[_Nightlion]

What did you do? Check out Neocortex somewhere void and started thinking Rat-Brain part?
I am sorry, I am a little harsh here but even if you show a picture of Brain to a little kid and explain to him, there a dozens of layers in it with trillions of neurons, he'd grasp the basic principle of Evolution.
Nobody creates a Brain in one day, six thousand years or even a million years.
Brain is a product of time and God is the least qualified to create one.
I'll tell you why God is not qualified;
I run a medical clinic, my doctor sees over fifty kids a day; tell me how come some of them come with horrible afflictions
like Autism, Schizophrenia?
Wouldn't you think God would supply the brain with some basic cures?
After all we, worthless, sinful humans create computers but we also give some basic troubleshooting and protection against viruses.

Believe in elements make sense, at least some sense, you seem to abandon common sense long ago though.

God is a farmer who owns all the seeds of life. They have always been available. He seeds them hither and thither eventhough man looks at the details and invents another explanation for the origins of life.

Every generation of the heavens is the continuation of the seeds.

You are blind to the glory of God as you see it manifested in your everyday work. Only a negligable percent of people get afflicted tramatically. Go ahead and run the numbers. Any God who can keep off the horrible potential that this life affords to render true hardship and affliction to less than one percent is worthy of all praise and honor and glory given by worthless, sinful humans.

Man respect the billions and billions who get through life unscathed.
Where is your gratitude for that? How could we begin to be grateful and rejoice and praise God day and night if we were not aware of how bad it COULD be?

Think about how whinny you are.

"Oh, here is little Tommy all crippled and twisted......God is a monster for this."

When all the comforts of your age were provided and built by healthy and hearty folks who never suffered. Billions and billion of them.