Correspondence between X and Dr. Daniel C. Peterson

[_Doctor Scratch]

For example, do you know that DCP claimed in a separate post that he was contacting my old teachers in order to try and extract embarrassing, personal stories about my past?

Could you possibly supply a link to the post in which I allegedly made that claim?

Sure:

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I don't know who you are, don't know who your old teachers are, and have no interest whatsoever in tracking down "embarrassing, personal stories about [your] past."

Here's the quote:

And I know that there are at least three important scholars who, having consulted with me, still intend to PM you in the near term. (One shared a really amusing story about your misadventures as a sophomore.) Don't go too far from your computer.

This is a direct threat from you, Dan. You promised to unveil some embarrassing piece of information from my past---info which you presumably obtained via unscrupulous means.

Your claim is utterly and absolutely false.

Nope!

Now, I don't doubt that you'll have something carefully squirreled away in your bizarre and obsessive file system that you will attempt to spin in order to support your accusation.

No, Dan. You claimed, in the above quoted excerpt, that you knew a "scholar" (and who would that be other than an old teacher of mine? a colleague? who?) who was going to peddle a story about my "misadventures." Why did you say that?

But, again, I deny it as totally and completely untrue. It's something in which I have zero interest, and that, in any case, I would be unable to do.

You had interest enough to say it in the first place.

[_Some Schmo]

All you critics who are calling out WjExMo for his OP are really just messing with DCP. You know that, don't you? According to DCP, we critics never come to the defense of Mormons. We never cry out against other critics for bad behavior, and we definitely always keep our indignation to ourselves when the attack is against an apologist.

What are you people trying to do to our sacred reputation?!

And WjExMo, I certainly understand being disgusted by DCP's online behavior, but seriously dude, you might want to dial it back just a tad. Just a suggestion.

[_Daniel Peterson]

This is a direct threat from you, Dan. You promised to unveil some embarrassing piece of information from my past---info which you presumably obtained via unscrupulous means.

Sigh.

I'd forgotten that you are, or at least pretend to be, utterly bereft of a sense of humor and wholly without irony.

That remark was manifestly tongue-in-cheek, a response to the boast you'd just made about supposedly damning information that you'd received on me that very morning from members of your creepy alleged network of anonymous informants.

The fact is that one of us really does drool over every little tidbit that he can obtain or manufacture in order to put the other in the worst possible light -- but it isn't me. I don't know who you are, have no idea who your teachers were, have no interest in sleuthing out or publishing embarrassing personal stories from your past, and have never threatened to do so.

Get a life, Scratch.

Interest rates are still relatively low. You might even be able to secure a loan in order to get one.

[_Roger]

Okay I will weigh in on this... to be honest there is a side of me thinking Dan may deserve this to some extent. I can attest to being on the receiving end of some of his (in my opinion unwarranted) snide remarks and name calling on MADB (there I am 4Truth). So, yes I find it quite believable that Dan has apparently made some enemies. Nevertheless I think bringing someone's family into the discussion--whether satirically or not--is over the line.

My 2 cents.

[_Enuma Elish]

Well, we are out to show him that opposites are going to collide – and that the world doesn’t really give a damn about a little polygamous cult in Utah, let alone a professor from a Mormon owned university.

What a silly suggestion.

I don't pretend to speak for my friend Dr. Peterson, however, I personally suspect that Dan is already fully aware that opposition exists in all things and that the world doesn't give a damn about Mormonism, let alone a professor from a Church owned university.

I doubt there's any need whatsoever to help Dr. Peterson recognize these points.

[_Doctor Scratch]

This is a direct threat from you, Dan. You promised to unveil some embarrassing piece of information from my past---info which you presumably obtained via unscrupulous means.

Sigh.

I'd forgotten that you are, or at least pretend to be, utterly bereft of a sense of humor and wholly without irony.

Oh, so you were trying to make me laugh by telling an extraordinarily creepy lie? Is that it?

That remark was manifestly tongue-in-cheek, a response to the boast you'd just made about supposedly damning information that you'd received on me that very morning from members of your creepy alleged network of anonymous informants.

??? Do they offer remedial reading comprehension courses at BYU, Prof. P.? I said nothing about receiving "damning information" about you. I doubt that such information actually exists. If it did, I'm sure it would have surfaced long ago.

What I said was that scholars of Mormonism had contacted me in order to offer words of encouragement and/or to supply me with interesting links or information. You (very bizarrely) interpreted that to mean that I was claiming that hardcore, TBM friends of yours were feeding me information. Paranoid, Dr. P.?

The fact is that one of us really does drool over every little tidbit that he can obtain or manufacture in order to put the other in the worst possible light -- but it isn't me.

Nor is it me. (Are you, in actuality, the one who is trying to "put the other in the worst possible light"?) There are decades of evidence in favor of you doing this. How much do you have for me? Some messageboard posts? Your "drooling" extends into published articles, conference presentations, firesides, "fundraising" excursions, and probably ten to twenty times the number of messageboard posts I've written. You just can't compare the two of us. If I am bad and "malevolent" and "obsessive," or whatever your insult du jour is, then you need to realize that you are ten times guiltier than I am.

I don't know who you are, have no idea who your teachers were, have no interest in sleuthing out or publishing embarrassing personal stories from your past, and have never threatened to do so.

Well, if you never 'threatened,' then you did lie about it. Frankly, I'm not sure which is worse. I think a full retraction and apology are in order here.

Get a life, Scratch.

You first. You've spent nearly three decades attacking people, doling out snide condescension, and just generally behaving in all kinds of appalling ways. Your personal ethics have eroded so much that you are now stooping to telling lies in order to exact revenge (and then later trying to claim that you were "just joking"). You pulled something like this with GoodK, too, and that may wind up landing you in some unpleasant legal waters over it. And yet you still carry on. You'd better hope that GoodK and his attorney don't see your posts on this thread.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Scratch, I think any reasonable person who has observed our interactions over the past three years will know pretty well what to make of them and how to evaluate our respective roles in the farce.

Okay I will weigh in on this... to be honest there is a side of me thinking Dan may deserve this to some extent.

!!!!!!

Yes, indeed. In the civil, respectful, charitable message board environment created by the efforts of such luminaries as Some Schmo, Polygamy Porter/College Terrace, Joey, solomarineris, Scratch, Mercury, nomomo, WjExMo, Pokatator, Chap, antishock8, and etc., I'm certainly off in a despicable class all by myself for the sheer abusive, unprincipled, aggressive, personal viciousness of my posts, and I deserve to be punished!

Nevertheless I think bringing someone's family into the discussion--whether satirically or not--is over the line.

Thank you. I think that should be pretty obvious myself.

[_Trevor]

Who would like to speculate as to what would happen to the crusade against Daniel Peterson if he were to ignore it?

[_ByronMarchant]

My experience with Dr. Daniel Peterson is a little (only slightly) different.

I don't recall him attacking me, what he has done with me is to ignore the literary works of scholars I have suggested he and others read (by saying, in effect, they are a joke) who have written on the subject of Mormonism. Lately, of course, DrDCP has found it necessary to put a lid on his pattern of behavior, since many people are realizing that there is valuable information within the pages of these books DrDCP has formerly claimed "...are a joke." He has preferred, lately, to opt out of the dialogue. He seems to be exercising his non-debating skills with friends at BYU, etc., rather than to debate with those who know real Mormon history.

[_Daniel Peterson]

what he has done with me is to ignore the literary works of scholars I have suggested he and others read (

Simply horrifying.

One of my many egregious sins is that, sometimes, I fail to be interested in what other people demand I should find interesting, even decline to devote my life to topics that others expect me to devote my life to.

Who would like to speculate as to what would happen to the crusade against Daniel Peterson if he were to ignore it?

Has it really not been obvious, over the past several weeks, that Scratch isn't getting anywhere near the bang for his buck that he used to get?