Eric.

[_harmony]

You ratted him out. Ask him. Eric, did the good bishop rat you out? Ask anyone else here. Anyone else, did lumpy rat Eric out? As far as I know internet link in emails do not exempt reality.

Your term, "ratted him out", is interesting. If someone is "ratted out", the assumption is that they were doing something underhanded, something that they want to keep hidden, something that society or someone significant (like one's parents) may not approve of. Is that the context you are using?

[_Gadianton Plumber]

Well, you can say that. Throws doubt on your mental abilities. Oh wait, I am talking to an apologist, here. You are incapable of seeing reality. Yes, you ratted him out. Yes, you ratted him out. Yes, you ratted him out. If you can't accept this indisputable fact, maybe some region of your mushy head recognizes the crime you have committed.

You ratted him out. Ask him. Eric, did the good bishop rat you out? Ask anyone else here. Anyone else, did lumpy rat Eric out? As far as I know internet link in emails do not exempt reality.

GP, I've taken you seriously twice over the past few days when you've spoken of turning over a new leaf, of starting over again, of taking a more civil approach.

As the saying goes: Fool me once? Shame on you. Fool me twice? Shame on me.

It won't happen again.

Read those again. On the first one I pointed out the folly of collective judgment, but reserved the right to judge individuals. I told you not to get too comfy, I wasn't done with you.

The second one I felt like a jerk for pushing it too far. I asked to be friends. You smacked me down.

Still missing that part of your brain?

[_Gadianton Plumber]

You ratted him out. Ask him. Eric, did the good bishop rat you out? Ask anyone else here. Anyone else, did lumpy rat Eric out? As far as I know internet link in emails do not exempt reality.

Your term, "ratted him out", is interesting. If someone is "ratted out", the assumption is that they were doing something underhanded, something that they want to keep hidden, something that society or someone significant (like one's parents) may not approve of. Is that the context you are using?

I think "ratting out" applies for petty little things that aren't anyone's business generally. The rat is trying to hurt the ratee. If there is something dangerous or fraudulent, that would not be ratting. in my opinion. that's why bishy is implying there is more to the story. I smell a rat, I am calling a rat, based on him sending a link. Did the link contain a threat or plans to rob someone? Or was it an example of a person stating an opinion.

Danny Blob is a rat.

[Guest]

You keep failing to mention the incident in which you sent my step-dad an email saying, "Your son appears to be posting as 'Chap' now..."

That was part of the subsequent conversation. I was mistaken.

My step-dad isn't a "friend" of his.

We've been friends, though not close friends, for roughly two decades.

That's the reason why, when Eric quoted his stepdad's letter to friends and family on this board, I immediately recognized that "GoodK" was Eric: Because Eric's stepdad had included me among the friends and family to whom he had sent that letter.

The only time this century that Mr. Peterson visited my step-dad was when he brought the professional FARMS fund raiser Ed Snow with him to, as my step-dad described, hit him up for donations.

For the record, the fundraiser, Ed Snow, brought me with him.

I've visited with Eric's stepfather on a number of occasions, in both California and Utah. When Bill Hamblin and I debated James White on a Salt Lake City radio program on 3 October 1993, for example, Eric's stepfather met us at the radio station, stayed through the three-hour broadcast, and visited with us afterwards. And, on 21 March 2008, when Elder Bruce Hafen delivered the annual Maxwell Lecture at BYU, Eric's stepfather and I visited with each other both before and after the lecture. (Those are just two occasions for which, as it happens, I can easily give the precise dates. And March of 2008 counts as "this century," I believe.)

Stop being dishonest, bishop.

See above.


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[_harmony]

For the record, I hit people up for money all the time. It's my job. I'm over $400K so far this year. There's nothing inherently bad about fundraising, especially if one has a passion for the cause.

So don't be nagging on fundraisers. We too are needed.

[_Daniel Peterson]

I felt like a jerk for pushing it too far. I asked to be friends. You smacked me down.

Still missing that part of your brain?

Here's what GP said: "I apologize for my baseless polemics, bishop. I will strive to keep the conversation intellectual in the future. Friends?"

Here's how I replied, in what GP describes as my "smacking him down": "GP, I really don't hold grudges. Ray A can attest to that, when he's not angry with me. I'm happy to be mutually respectful. But if you pronounce me, publicly, to be a dishonorable person who is happy to harm others, and so forth, it's very possible that I'll respond. I'm not the monster of Scratch's fantasies, nor the uncaring ideological hack of Ray's latest posts."

To which GP responds, striving to "keep the conversation intellectual" and avoid "baseless polemics":

Throws doubt on your mental abilities. . . . You are incapable of seeing reality. Yes, you ratted him out. Yes, you ratted him out. Yes, you ratted him out. . . . maybe some region of your mushy head recognizes the crime you have committed.

You ratted him out. Ask him. Eric, did the good bishop rat you out? Ask anyone else here. Anyone else, did lumpy rat Eric out? . . . bishy . . . I smell a rat, I am calling a rat . . . Danny Blob is a rat.

High quality stuff. Very intellectual.

When a philosophical ethicist of this quality finds fault with something I've done, it's an occasion for real soul-searching

[_Joey]

Joey, you really do come across as a jibbering, juvenile buffoon with a chip on his shoulder.

Based upon the overwhelming comments on this thread, looks like you got a long ways to go to raise yourself to my level.

Keep digging Danny!

[_Pokatator]

I am sorry Jersey Girl.

And I have failed to see Dan answer you, so I will abide by your "no question of mine has gone unanswered" and excuse me and forgive me.

This was poorly written and I removed the "hell" part as soon as I submitted it. I tried to state that I failed to see Dan's answers and apologize. I did and do totally deserve your rebuke. I was too tired to be on the board last night and I am too sensitive about Dan and emotional because I see my past in Eric. Dan just plain reminds me of two different Bishop's from my past and he gets under my skin too easily. I am taking a break from the board.

Jersey Girl thanks for caring enough to set me straight.

I wish everyone the best.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Based upon the overwhelming comments on this thread, looks like you got a long ways to go to raise yourself to my level.

No, Joey. You've been objectively, clinically proven to be a jibbering and juvenile buffoon. As for me, I've simply chosen to make an appearance among ideologically motivated haters, and the natives are, quite predictably, made very restless by my showing up here. It's a bit like a monkey cage at the zoo. It gets pretty noisy here, but there's no real significance to the shrieks and calls.

[_Some Schmo]

As for me, I've simply chosen to make an appearance among ideologically motivated haters, and the natives are, quite predictably, made very restless by my showing up here. It's a bit like a monkey cage at the zoo. It gets pretty noisy here, but there's no real significance to the shrieks and calls.

Well, what a fine example of you defending your faith. I can't for the life of me imagine why you draw the antagonism you do given such innocuous little remarks. Such a mystery!