One credible Archaelogical Book of Mormon find?

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Re: One credible Archaelogical Book of Mormon find?

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zzyzx wrote:I have a book given to me by a friend. It is a cartoon type book 'Trial of the Book of Mormon'.

After going through it and wasting way too much time looking up all the 'proofs' it has I cannot find one archaeological evidence accepted by any reputable scientist or institution that points to anything relating to Book of Mormon folk. No Nephite or Lamanite/Hebrew/Jewish stuff at all.

Is there even one find that correlates to Book of Mormon historical 'fact'?

I don't accept Central America as part of Book of Mormon lands as Joseph Smith was told of the land of the Lamanites in Ohio and Missouri. He spoke of 'Rocky Mountains to the Eastern Shore' in talking of Nephites and Lamanites.

I can see the Central and South American areas being part of these great and diverse civilizations. If they existed at all they could have spread that far if breeding like Rabbits on steroids.

Still, no credible Book of Mormon civilization artifacts anywhere?


Try this and see what you think:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... type=&aq=f
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Those guys in the Youtube section sort of look the same in age. In ten years who is going to replace these guys?
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Temple artifacts in South America: Link

Lehis vision of the tree of life: Stela 5

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Pre-Columbian incised stone found during construction of airport at Cuenca, Ecuador, showing elephants and symbols which may be writing.
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Here Gaz - You don't even need to rent or buy this you can watch it online instantly with netflix.


http://www.amazon.com/Cracking-Maya-Cod ... 405&sr=8-3
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why me wrote:
Try this and see what you think:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... type=&aq=f



Did anyone catch this "warning" from the fair YouTube channel:

Warning:
Clicking off of this page to another area on YouTube may take you to videos critical of the Church and could contain inappropriate content.


:lol:
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Re: One credible Archaelogical Book of Mormon find?

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Gazelam wrote:Temple artifacts in South America: Link

Lehis vision of the tree of life: Stela 5

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Pre-Columbian incised stone found during construction of airport at Cuenca, Ecuador, showing elephants and symbols which may be writing.
(Crespi Collection. Photo: J. Manson Valentine)


Stela 5:

"Mainstream Mesoamerican researchers identify the central image as a Mesoamerican world tree, connecting the sky above and the water or underworld below.

Linda Schele and Mary Ellen Miller further propose that the stela records a creation myth, with barely-formed humans emerging from a hole drilled into the tree's left side. The associated seated figures are completing these humans in various ways. Julia Guernsey Kappelman, on the other hand, suggests the seated figures are Izapa elites conducting ritual activities in a "quasi-historical scene", which is framed by, and placed in the context of, the "symbolic landscape of creation...

Mainstream Mesoamerican scholars do not support linking Izapa Stela 5 to the Bible, the Book of Mormon, or an "out of Africa" theory. For example, Julia Guernsey Kappelman, author of a definitive work on Izapan culture, finds that Jakeman's research "belies an obvious religious agenda that ignored Izapa Stela 5's heritage".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izapa_Stela_5

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Re: One credible Archaelogical Book of Mormon find?

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Not even Brant Gardner believes that stela 5 is related to the tree of life.

There is no new world artifact or archaeological find that supports the Book of Mormon, other than the most hopelessly generic "hits".

Ancient Mesoamericans walked on two legs and formed family units. So did the Nephites!! How could Joseph Smith have known???
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.

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beastie wrote:Not even Brant Gardner believes that stela 5 is related to the tree of life.

There is no new world artifact or archaeological find that supports the Book of Mormon, other than the most hopelessly generic "hits".

Ancient Mesoamericans walked on two legs and formed family units. So did the Nephites!! How could Joseph Smith have known???

And yet, the youtube videos do make a point. I have often said that when it comes to evidence no evidence will be clear cut. Religion is not about evidence but it is about faith. If anything would prove the Book of Mormon conclusively, god then would be proved. And that is not about to happen.

For after all, you would then become a shining new Mormon but all for the wrong reasons.
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And yet, the youtube videos do make a point. I have often said that when it comes to evidence no evidence will be clear cut. Religion is not about evidence but it is about faith. If anything would prove the Book of Mormon conclusively, god then would be proved. And that is not about to happen.

For after all, you would then become a shining new Mormon but all for the wrong reasons.


Because, for some reason, God doesn't want people to believe on the basis of reliable evidence.

He wants people willing to believe in the face of the lack of evidence.

Sounds like God and hucksters aim for the same target audience.
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Re: One credible Archaelogical Book of Mormon find?

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If anything would prove the Book of Mormon conclusively, god then would be proved. And that is not about to happen.


What?

Even if the Book of Mormon were proven true it could mean that a thousand fairies whispered the story to J, or that Joseph Smith tapped into a time warp, or that he connected to the Akashic records, or that some extraterrestial insect like being came down and gave him a history of the world, or that he was the reincarnation of Mormon and in a trance remembered it all.

Or even if people wanted to go with the idea that there is a God, it doesn't mean that this Mormon God is the real God, or the one and only God, or a good God.

I just find the idea that God tries to trick people, or makes truth seem like craziness, or that lies and deception are required to believe truth, totally silly.

But who knows.... :ugeek:

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