Beastie rocks my socks.

[_Pahoran]

Invading a thread that has nothing to do with you to complain about a comment made almost two years ago sounds more like "stalking" to me . . . not to mention obsessive.

While invading a thread that has nothing to do with you -- even "coming out of retirement" -- to complain about a comment made five and a half years ago doesn't?

Why is it so hard for you -- any of you -- to maintain a single consistent standard?

Regards,
Pahoran

[_harmony]

Invading a thread that has nothing to do with you to complain about a comment made almost two years ago sounds more like "stalking" to me . . . not to mention obsessive.

While invading a thread that has nothing to do with you -- even "coming out of retirement" -- to complain about a comment made five and a half years ago doesn't?

Why is it so hard for you -- any of you -- to maintain a single consistent standard?

Regards,
Pahoran

What happened to the 99 on the end of your name?

[_Analytics]

Here is another reference I found:

lie back and think of England: Advice supposedly formerly given to women before sexual intercourse with their husbands. (often associated with the Victorians, though not attested until later). "think of England" refers to the importance of children.

[_Pahoran]

But I will be adding this in the thread I'm going to put together. Let's see how many times you deliberately and maliciously slander me by repeating a charge you know is false. I'll keep a running count.

Ah, the good old Beastie hypocrisy in full flight.

You expect me to credit that you "genuinely believe" every single word you post. Why? Because you say you do. Don't you think this rule should be applied even-handedly?

by the way, I'm curious: you accused Rob of being a "misogynist" based entirely and only upon him calling Scratch "Ms Scratch," correct?

I recall Scratch calling Kemara "Ms Kemara" some time ago. (That was at the same time that he was obsessing about Kemara being me, which is why I remember it.) Did you fly into a foaming-at-the-mouth feminist rage at him for his "misogynist" remark?

Or not?

No doubt you "genuinely believe" that Scratch was not being a misogynist for doing the very same thing that you "genuinely believe" qualifies you to accuse Rob of being a misogynist.

But that only goes to demonstrate that what you "genuinely believe" is influenced -- if not entirely determined -- by your ideological and partisan bias.

That's why I kept asking if you were going to shower me with "kudos" on the same basis that you so effusively offered it to DrW: not because I expected you to, but because I was curious to see how you would justify your inevitable hypocrisy, which is as predictable as the sunrise.

What happened to the 99 on the end of your name?

Shades kindly let me know that my old account was still available.

Regards,
Pahoran

[_Pahoran]

Here is another reference I found:

lie back and think of England: Advice supposedly formerly given to women before sexual intercourse with their husbands. (often associated with the Victorians, though not attested until later). "think of England" refers to the importance of children.

Thank you.

Now explain why it is not a vile, inconscionable thing to say to a married man about his sex life, and why any woman with a shred of virtue would think to say such a thing.

Regards,
Pahoran

[_beastie]

While invading a thread that has nothing to do with you -- even "coming out of retirement" -- to complain about a comment made five and a half years ago doesn't?

Why is it so hard for you -- any of you -- to maintain a single consistent standard?

My complaint was directly related to the charge you were making against Dr. W.

As I just explained - again - on MAD:

Dr. W used the tragedy of a mentally ill woman killing her children to make a very negative point about LDS theology.

Pahoran used the tragedy of a mentally ill man killing his family to make a very negative point about apostate lying.

Pahoran’s point, in his thread about Dr. W, wasn’t just that Dr. W wasn’t using a good example to prove his point. It was that Dr. W’s use of the tragedy amounting to exploitation to make a polemic point.

So we have two complaints:

A- it was a poor example, due to the mental illness
B – it was exploitation of a tragedy caused by mental illness to score a point

I actually agreed with Pahoran’s objection to Dr. W’s use of “Christine”. As I expressed on the thread, it was a bad example of the point Dr. W was trying to make due to the factor of mental illness.

It’s part B that Pahoran’s being a hypocrite about. He was more than willing to use a tragedy caused by mental illness to score a polemic point about apostates. In fact, I don’t think he was actually bothered by Dr. W’s use of “Christine’s” tragedy, because he expressed delight at seeing Dr. W use it, due to the fact that it gave Pahoran another opportunity to score a point (ie, there are no valid criticisms of the LDS church, and Dr. W is dishonest). So he’s very willing to use tragedies caused by mental illness in service of the points he wants to make. He just objects when someone else does it.

If Pahoran’s thread had solely focused on “A”, I wouldn’t have intervened. But because Pahoran chose to make the use of a tragedy caused by mental illness a statement about Dr. W’s character as shown in point B, I intervened. By the standards Pahoran set for Dr. W, whether or not you agree with the polemic point Pahoran was making, Pahoran was also exploiting a tragedy caused by mental illness, which makes any statement Pahoran was making about Dr. W’s character equally applicable to Pahoran.

OTOH, if I had regularly popped into threads on which you participating, and brought up your past bad behavior even when there was absolutely no connection to the thread topic, then I would have been doing the same thing Bob has done here (and repeatedly on other threads).

Now, notice that Pahoran does not have the slightest objection to Bob's intrusion on this thread. In fact, he celebrated it by making it part of his sig line at MAD. So where's that consistent standard, P?


Pahoran's recent:

by the way, I'm curious: you accused Rob of being a "misogynist" based entirely and only upon him calling Scratch "Ms Scratch," correct?

I recall Scratch calling Kemara "Ms Kemara" some time ago. (That was at the same time that he was obsessing about Kemara being me, which is why I remember it.) Did you fly into a foaming-at-the-mouth feminist rage at him for his "misogynist" remark?

Bob did more than just call scratch "Ms Scratch". I'll go into it on the thread I'm going to devote to just that.

I have no idea what you're talking about with regard to Kemara. A link would be helpful.

[_beastie]

Now explain why it is not a vile, inconscionable thing to say to a married man about his sex life, and why any woman with a shred of virtue would think to say such a thing.

The humanity, the humanity....

[_rcrocket]

Bob did more than just call scratch "Ms Scratch". I'll go into it on the thread I'm going to devote to just that.

That'll be interesting; I certainly don't recall anything more.

I still think Scratch is a woman. But who really cares.

Hope you don't mind if I don't respond to threads about me. It isn't about me.


xx

[_Pahoran]

Bob did more than just call scratch "Ms Scratch". I'll go into it on the thread I'm going to devote to just that.

That'll be interesting; I certainly don't recall anything more.

I still think Scratch is a woman. But who really cares.

Hope you don't mind if I don't respond to threads about me. It isn't about me.


xx

In the thread in which Beastie showed her true colours, she specifically singled out the fact that you called Scratch "Ms Scratch," thereby implying that he was a woman, thereby insulting him, which therefore showed that you think calling someone a woman is an insult, thus you were a misogynist.

Now I don't know anything about Scratch in real life, but I'm confident he's male, because of the way he fights.

Just like I'm confident Beastie is female, because of the way she fights.

Beastie fights not like a girl, but like a fishwife. I can just see her, wagging a rolling pin at her hapless husband, and saying: "Don't talk to ME about that! Why, five and a half years ago, YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU said...!" And all in a voice like fingernails on a blackboard, rising to a perfectly off-pitch soprano screech.

Scratch, OTOH, fights, not like a man, but like a fat boy with a rich father: he postures, and he blusters, and he makes rude gestures -- but all from safely on the other side of a wrought-iron fence, and standing next to his dad's chauffer.

As for what Beastie said: yes, it was entirely reprehensible; I've said so several times. But she did apologise. Half-heartedly, it is true, but it was an apology, and it's all you'll ever get. I suggest you let it go.

Regards,
Pahoran

[_Pahoran]

Who me?

No, Sir. I was referring to Mr. Pahoran. He is, without a doubt, the worst I have witnessed post on the Internet.

Very Respectfully,

Doctor CamNC4Me

As I suspected. Gadianton was clearly having a Proverbs 28:1 moment.

Regards,
Pahoran