Beastie rocks my socks.

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Re: Beastie rocks my socks.

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Analytics wrote:And I am not going to listen to you lecture about the vice of hurling vile and inconscionable insults, your expertise in such things notwithstanding.

Thanks for the compliment, but I really have to defer to Beastie on this one. Compared to her, I'm strictly amateur hour.

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Gadianton wrote:
Pahoran wrote:As I suspected. Gadianton was clearly having a Proverbs 28:1 moment.

Hi Pahoran. I'm going to assume you meant "Gadianton Plumber" here, and weren't implying that he and I might be one and the same.

Indeed, it was GP. I didn't realise you were still around; long time, no knock-down-drag-out!

Gadianton wrote:Nice to see you on the board again. The BBQ offer still stands if you're ever in California, just send me a PM. I have a freezer full of Ribeye steaks now, they are very, very good. And we don't use gas over here, just the right mix of charcoal and wood. A little montreal steak and cooked with habanero peppers. It's a very old-school BBQ, I have not eaten a restaraunt cooked steak that tastes better (I'll admit I've never been to Japan nor have I spent more than 60$ on a steak).

My mouth is already watering, but I'm unlikely to get to California for at least this BBQ season. FYI, all our beef down here is pasture-raised; I'm told it's not as tender and a bit more gamey than the grain-fed variety. Still, we like it, and our US visitors don't complain a lot.

Drop me a line if you're likely to be down our way during our BBQ season (your winter.) Unfortunately mine is only gas, but it's easier to clean up afterwards.

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Scottie wrote:I believe that Pahoran himself shut the thread down because he had no comeback. Beastie pwned him HARD!!!

Still think so, Scottie?

Scottie wrote:by the way, my marriage proposal still stands... :)

I surely hope my successful defense does not mar your admiration.

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Re: Beastie rocks my socks.

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Pahoran wrote:I surely hope my successful defense does not mar your admiration.

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I suggest a refresher course in Criminal Law, if this thread is an example of a successful defense.
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Re: Beastie rocks my socks.

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JohnStuartMill wrote:
Boycott MADB! They apparently want an echo-chamber; let's show them how much fun that would be, and how bad it will make them look.


I have long wished all the critics would abandon that board on principle. If posting here isn't satisfying without a higher number of apologists to argue with, then start a blog about the issues you are drawn to.
It will probably have more of an impact on someone searching for information than a discussion board.

Are the apologists who refuse to come here worth all the groveling and broken glass walking to remain a poster there?


But on the other side of the coin, I think it only validates critics for lurkers to watch the behavior of apologists. It did for me when I first stumbled on that place looking for answers. Everytime a moderator steps in to save them as they are drowning, it hurts their argument.
When the critics are the only kind, compassionate, civil, and intellectually honest ones on that board, that causes the most damage to the LDS argument. The personal attacks consistently thrown at non believers, reflect very poorly on Mormons. It would probably appall most LDS to see their fellow Ward members treating another human in such an anti Christian manner. (well, maybe not since we are talking about apostates)
I feel the most pain for the newbies with "shaken faith syndrome" who go there with troubling questions and are treated horribly.
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Re: Beastie rocks my socks.

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I surely hope my successful defense does not mar your admiration.


This is what is frankly astounding in all this – somehow Pahoran has convinced himself he has mounted a “successful defense”. It takes a remarkable capacity for self-deception to arrive at that conclusion.

His main “defense” has been to insist that he was really referring to never-mormon Joseph as the lying apostate, not schizophrenic Gino. To support that strained interpretation, he’s been forced to admit he utilized “imprecise language” (ie, language that clearly conveyed he was talking about Gino), “fuzzy” language (ie, using Joseph, who had never been LDS and wasn’t talking about the break-up of his own marriage as an example of an apostate who lies when he blames the church for his marital failure), the insistence that one could not talk about Gino’s attitude toward the marital break-up but that only the murders could rightfully be discussed (on a thread about how apostates lie when blaming the church for their marital failures) and “tactical ripostes” that weren’t intended to convey a “position” (!!!!)

All this time and tortured reasoning to try and prove he was talking about Joseph…. and never one word on why focusing on Joseph instead of Gino would somehow absolve him from the primary charge – that he exploited a tragedy caused by mental illness to make a polemic point about apostates. Altering a detail about that exploitation doesn’t alter the act of exploitation.

That Pahoran is able to convince himself this resulted in a “successful defense” helps us to understand why he also believes that Dr. W’s use of this example helps demonstrate that there aren’t any valid criticisms against the church. Pahoran clearly has a remarkable capacity for self-deception that goes beyond the average human inclination for self-deception. I think that’s also why he is apparently able to convince himself that I am far worse than he is when it comes to insults. This is a man who, almost with every other breath, accuses critics of lying. This is a man who regularly insinuates that critics cannot possibly be honest (and then objects when that is pointed out). This is a man who, on Z, accused the temperate Analytics of being an anti-mormon who would be “ok” with LDS being murdered. This is a man who, on this very thread, waxed eloquent about my “fish-wife” characteristics, and who claimed I had not “one shred of virtue”. And yet he is able to convince himself that I am far more vicious and insulting than he is. This is truly an impressive ability to self-deceive.
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Re: Beastie rocks my socks.

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Pahoran wrote:[
Now I don't know anything about Scratch in real life


Sure you do. It was private information, and you gleefully posted it on your "Mr. Itchy" blog.

Beastie fights not like a girl, but like a fishwife. I can just see her, wagging a rolling pin at her hapless husband, and saying: "Don't talk to ME about that! Why, five and a half years ago, YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU said...!" And all in a voice like fingernails on a blackboard, rising to a perfectly off-pitch soprano screech.


Wow. Frothing with hypocritical rage, practically foaming at the mouth with hate-inflected bitterness. I know that I sure feel the warmth of the Spirit anytime good ol' Pah surfaces.

Scratch, OTOH, fights, not like a man, but like a fat boy with a rich father: he postures, and he blusters, and he makes rude gestures -- but all from safely on the other side of a wrought-iron fence, and standing next to his dad's chauffer.


ROFL! Sort of like hiding out on MAD, depending on the biased moderators to protect you from your opponents? It took you, what, three years to recover from the butt-kicking I gave you last time? I guess you've finally healed up and grown enough of a spine to return.
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by the way, Pahoran offered to smoke the peace pipe on MAD, and I'm going to go ahead and take a toke, so I intend to drop this.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.

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Re: Beastie rocks my socks.

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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Pahoran wrote:Now I don't know anything about Scratch in real life

Sure you do. It was private information, and you gleefully posted it on your "Mr. Itchy" blog.

I never had a "Mr. Itchy" blog; your paranoia is showing. I heard about that kerfuffle, including some posts on ZLMB, but when I went to look, the juicy stuff had been removed.

Doctor Scratch wrote:
Beastie fights not like a girl, but like a fishwife. I can just see her, wagging a rolling pin at her hapless husband, and saying: "Don't talk to ME about that! Why, five and a half years ago, YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU said...!" And all in a voice like fingernails on a blackboard, rising to a perfectly off-pitch soprano screech.

Wow. Frothing with hypocritical rage, practically foaming at the mouth with hate-inflected bitterness. I know that I sure feel the warmth of the Spirit anytime good ol' Pah surfaces.

Hey, just trying to fit in with the local culture. You know, when in Rome, and all that.

Doctor Scratch wrote:
Scratch, OTOH, fights, not like a man, but like a fat boy with a rich father: he postures, and he blusters, and he makes rude gestures -- but all from safely on the other side of a wrought-iron fence, and standing next to his dad's chauffer.

ROFL! Sort of like hiding out on MAD, depending on the biased moderators to protect you from your opponents? It took you, what, three years to recover from the butt-kicking I gave you last time? I guess you've finally healed up and grown enough of a spine to return.

I don't "hide out" there; it's where I prefer to post. I came back here because I was being attacked on one of the threads. You gave me no "butt-kicking" except in your own strange mind.

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Pahoran wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:Sure you do. It was private information, and you gleefully posted it on your "Mr. Itchy" blog.

I never had a "Mr. Itchy" blog; your paranoia is showing. I heard about that kerfuffle, including some posts on ZLMB, but when I went to look, the juicy stuff had been removed.


If that's the case, then someone was doing a dead-on impression of you. I guess this was one of your MAD "friends"?

Doctor Scratch wrote:Wow. Frothing with hypocritical rage, practically foaming at the mouth with hate-inflected bitterness. I know that I sure feel the warmth of the Spirit anytime good ol' Pah surfaces.

Hey, just trying to fit in with the local culture. You know, when in Rome, and all that.


Except, of course, for the obvious fact that your rage extends across every board you've ever posted on. Hey: I gotta hand it to you, at least you're willing to admit what you're doing. Admitting your rage and hatred is the first step towards recovery. Soon, you won't even feel the need to exact Lucifer-sanctioned revenge on critics of the Church of Jesus Christ.
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