Do You Believe in Life After Death?

[_truth dancer]

Hi NL...

You need to get out there and read of other's experiences.

Yes, I have heard all sorts of experiences that I'm sure are as dramatic and powerful as was yours.

Particularly in the East, I find some of the spiritual masters have experiences that make a near death experience seem mundane.

Inc,

In terms of PLG, I have seen some incredible experiences, truly life altering. I have not noticed a commonality among those I have assisted.

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[_Inconceivable]

Inc,

In terms of PLG, I have seen some incredible experiences, truly life altering. I have not noticed a commonality among those I have assisted.
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and...?

[_Paul Osborne]

I voted Yes. I believe in life after death. I'll expand on my thoughts more later. I'm off to bed. Nice poll, Bracki!

Did you say you're in bed now?

Here is one of my favorites of favorites. When I die I hope I hear it sung by angels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO_EgW1z ... re=related

Paul O

[_truth dancer]

Hi Inc,

And.... what?



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[_Inconceivable]

Hi Inc,

And.... what?



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Yak, are you kidding?? (insert funny smilie here)

"..I have seen some incredible experiences, truly life altering.."

So please describe the sunrise to those of us that have never seen one.

[_truth dancer]

Hi Inc,



Well, first, I only do PLR when a client really feels it would aid in their healing. In other words, I don't do it for entertainment. Same with hypnosis.

One example I can briefly share (my client gave his permission), is when this man, I'll call him Tom had a life long and very serious struggle with anxiety, depression, and perfectionism.

He was an extremely successful engineer and did not believe in any religion at all. I was rather surprised when he asked for the regression because at the time he certainly did not believe in anything like reincarnation or karma.

Anyway to make a long story short, during the regression he had this incredible experience where he was the sole survivor of a ship wreck off of a South American Coast a few hundred years ago and ended up on an island. He lived alone for the rest of his life.

Now, during the regression, although he was extremely emotional I didn't think it was going to give him the answers he was looking for. However afterwards, he completely broke down and had this amazing epiphany where he realized what his life was about. He said that "everything made sense" and he understood from where his life long anxiety and depression originated. Without going into all the details, basically he came to understand that just living was enough and he didn't need to "succeed" or be perfect or anything like that. Life was about living and cherishing the very gift of life. He had a total awakening and a new appreciation for his family. He saw everything in a new light. It was really quite dramatic.

After an entire life of struggle, he was completely changed in that two hours.

Anyway, just an example of many that in my opinion were quite profound.

Just to be clear, while again I have seen some incredible life altering experiences from regression, I am not convinced these experiences are what they seem to be.

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[_Nightlion]

Hi NL...

You need to get out there and read of other's experiences.

Yes, I have heard all sorts of experiences that I'm sure are as dramatic and powerful as was yours.

Particularly in the East, I find some of the spiritual masters have experiences that make a near death experience seem mundane.

Inc,

In terms of PLG, I have seen some incredible experiences, truly life altering. I have not noticed a commonality among those I have assisted.

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I have a theory about Eastern Mistics. The excruciating pain of prolonged meditation conditions the minds after years of such torture to finally give the med head what he wants, what he has been seeking, what he has been programming into his own psyche, his vision of Nirvana, his transcendence, his validation. It is a school of shamanic hocus pocus. I guess that is what you said to begin with. Only I exclude true religion form the FORCED SPIRITUALISM of phony balonyism.

[_marg]

This is the first Poll that I am doing here. I have decided to do the Poll on whether you believe in life after death or not. I do want to see the Poll results that I will get here with this important Question. I have now become more interested in reading about and studying Near-Death Experiences. I believe in life after death.

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And most likely as you read "near death experiences" you will seek information which confirms your beliefs of life after death and either ignore that which doesn't or not understand in a critical way that which doesn't.

In order to do an effective critical examination of "life after death experiences" one not only needs an objective frame of mind but one needs to be able to critically evaluate the information well. And that's where the typical believer in life after death falls short when reading about near death experiences. From my experience with Ray on this discussion, there is the belief that the more one reads about each "near death experiences" that quantity of personal accounts, is evidence of truth in actuality that a life after death exists.

[_Black Moclips]

My answer is officially "I don't know".

But given a choice, I hope there is and would like there to be something after death. Similar to Inconceivable, I've read several very good books on NDE's and reincarnation. Not every reincarnation case or NDE is convincing, but I've read enough of them to believe there might be something going on there. These phenomena might be purely biological or random natural occurences, but I'm open to the explanation being more than that (spiritual realm).

[_Inconceivable]

..there is the belief that the more one reads about each "near death experiences" that quantity of personal accounts, is evidence of truth in actuality that a life after death exists.

This actually sounds logical to me, marg. The objective person will seek for patterns (whether they agree with their assumptions/paradigms or not). At very least, consistancy ought to give us a tendency to lean or believe. Perhaps we ought to call them current theories rather than beliefs.

Now, for those that live within a world the size of a box of matches (like Nightlion), you will notice that they cease to recognize or evaluate external stimulus in an objective way. In other words they have rendered themselves incapable of seeing the rest of the world from anyone elses perspective but their very own narrow view.

Just because something actually exists doesn't mean we understand it for what it is. I used to think I understood how I gave priesthood blessings conveying messages and healing people. Now I don't particularly understand at all. It still doesn't make it any less real.