Official origins of the temple garment?

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_The Nehor
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Re: Official origins of the temple garment?

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mormonmessages wrote:
The Nehor wrote:I didn't say it was the same girl. ;)
??? did I imply that?

Follow me bud, read, think, post, read, think again, submit.


Right, you ask me this well-thought out question in answer to me saying I was dating:

Oh? How long since your mission?


What does that mean? How long between my Mission and me starting to date? How long since I got home? How long until I started dating this girl? The question was incredibly vague.

Then I have no idea where the conversation went as I just picked any possible meaning of your words to answer.

So I'm going to recommend your own advice to you:

Follow me bud, read, think, post, read, think again, submit.
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_The Nehor
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Re: Official origins of the temple garment?

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mormonmessages wrote:You are being objective. Gazalame cannot remember the last time he thought objectively about Mormonism.


Yet we're supposed to accept that someone that makes the claim that he:

One, has an active wife in the church and has doubts that the Church is true but hides them to save his marriage.
Two, works for the Church and has doubts but hides them to avoid losing his job and jeopardizing his financial future.
Three, Describes his life as a hell due to the above situations.
Four, comes here to vent about said hell....

is very, very objective, or at least capable of discerning objectivity.
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_Mary
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Re: Official origins of the temple garment?

Post by _Mary »

Gazalam, (I guess I'm the only one interested in this!)

Okay, here is the only reference I can find to the use of the Square in Christian Art.

The square signifies the number four, and therefore the concepts symbolized by that number. When used in place of a halo, it designates that the person depicted is still living (since it is the number of earth).


Pretty useless though as the webpage doesn't say where the information is coming from and what date it is referring to...

http://www.religionfacts.com/christiani ... ls/a-z.htm
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_Paracelsus
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Re: Official origins of the temple garment?

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From http://www.kirche-jesu-christi.ch : Image
( Offizielle Website der Kirche Jesu Christi der Heiligen der Letzten Tage - © 2009 Kirche Jesu Christi der Heiligen der Letzten Tage - Schweiz )

From http://www.LDS.org : Image
( Official Web site of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints - © 2009 Intellectual Reserve, Inc.)

Where is Christ's garment?
I know of nothing poorer
Under the sun, than you, you Gods!
...
Should I honour you? Why?

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe : Prometheus
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Re: Official origins of the temple garment?

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mormonmessages wrote:I have doubts but I am too afraid to talk to either my wife or coworkers.

I am married to TBM wife with deep pioneer roots. I currently work for the church.
How TBM is my wife? She believes the garments came from god and that Adam and Eve wore them.

If I talk about any of my doubts, I will surely be facing a divorce and unemployment.

Someone asked why do I post these supposed easy to research questions?

To get them out there for other lurkers and the like to read. This is my only outlet to the hell that I live and work in.

Welcome, MM. Many of us here are in the same or similar boat as you. We hang out here and discuss what some TBM's would consider heretical (or at least controversial), for the simple reason we have no where else to discuss them. You're in good company here, and we're glad to have you.
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