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Gadianton wrote:...neglecting the arts in its favor of sciences and athletics...


Funny on many levels.
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Gadianton wrote:As most of you are aware, coming up mid-august is our university's first critic-apologist rowing competition. While the faculty at Cassius University has mostly been optimistic about this "bridge-building" event, there has arisen some criticism that Cassius is neglecting the arts in its favor of sciences and athletics. As Dean of this school, I've found myself troubled over what appears to be a valid criticism. So not long ago, I called an emergency faculty meeting to brianstorm over how we might bring the school back into balance. The result of this discussion, a solid first step toward our goal, is the creation of a new department, the school of Mopologetic Aesthetic Hygiene. I for one am very excited about this program and encourage all students to get a copy of the updated course catalog for fall. For your convenience, below is the augmented section.


I bet this won't at all lean heavily on stupid stereotypes.

Gadianton wrote:The School of Mopologetic Aesthetic Hygiene
Course offerings for Fall Semester 2009

MAH 101: Discerning "Trash" from "Real Art" - This course teaches students the basics of selecting "respectable" art from the Mopologetic point of view. Special attention is given over to knowing how to reject anything that is bawdy, anything that contains profanity, or anything that features sexuality beyond a 6th grade level.


My favorite artist is Gustav Klimpt. I've never been called a bad Mormon because of it, and I rather enjoyed touring his section of the Belvedere the last time I was in Austria. I intend to go again next summer when I'm in Austria with my wife. Profanity and sexuality just for the sake of profanity and sexuality, however, is the mark of a poor intellect, not a salient one.

PS - I'm also a licensed massage therapist (I specialize in trigger point and Shiatsu). Is that inappropriate of me, as a prudish and Victorian "apologist"?

Gadianton wrote:MAH 102L: Students registered for MAH 101 are encouraged to enroll in MAH 102L concurrently. A lab focused on Mopologetic interpretations of the dramatic work Camelot. Students will employ the safe, one-to-one method of symbol interpretation and appreciate how they are "Knights of the Round Table" (priesthood-holding apologists) valiantly defending "Camelot" (the Church).


Never heard of this one, but it sounds like a rather mean spirited criticism of a simple analogy you once heard that you seem to think has much deeper and more sincere roots.

Gadianton wrote:MAH 123: High Art vs. "Low" Art. Discusses strategies Mopologists use to avoid seeming like uneducated, humorless philistines. In particular, the course addresses Mopologetic favoritism shown towards classicist art, and the seemingly-savvy dismissals of "low" forms like the Broadway musical, or "non-serious" operas like Rigoletto.


I loved Wicked ("you're gonna be popu-u-lar!"), and Die Lustige Witwe (saw a bit of it in München). My wife's family and I see the ballet about every six weeks, and we're planing on going to see Henry V next month. Les Miserables and Phantom, of course, are standards. I guess I'm a bad Mormon for that. I originally went to school for fine arts. I also love classical art and have won a National Newspaper Association award for my work as an editorial cartoonist (I'm told this is "low art"). Maybe this stereotype isn't directed at me.

Gadianton wrote:MAH 301: Understanding Mopologetic Humor. This course explores the reasons why apologists are unfamiliar with post-Marx Brothers American comedy, with a special emphasis on their grimly humorless attitudes towards "edgy" or "bawdy" comedians like Chris Rock, Sam Kinnison, Sacha Baron Coehn, and Ellen DeGeneres. The course will also examine the Mopologetic technique of accusing Church critics of being "humorless" in the light of Mopologetic bad behavior.


I don't get the last part, but I cut my comedic teeth on Caddyschack, Vacation, Three Amigos, and I'm Gonna Git You Sucka. I don't find Sam Kinnison all that funny, but I think George Carlin and Chris Rock are hilarious. I also like Eddie Murphy's early stuff and Craig Ferguson. Sacha Baron Cohen was funny in Talladega Nights, but his mockumentaries are pretty stupid. I don't find Ellen DeGeneres particularly funny or edgy, but I understand you have to include her because she's a lesbian and you want to make a point. Incidentally, I went camping with my aunt and her wife last week. I guess I'm not being a good "apologist."

Gadianton wrote:MAH 302: An intense study of the conflicts between privilaging the GA-approved safety of Marx Brothers thematic tools and the stereotypical tone of the establishment found in the apologists' grim dismissals of critics' tastes as uncultured. Attention will also be paid to role reversals where the apologists let go the contradiction of preserving 18th Century Europe from a 1950's TBM living room and style themselves as "wicked and irreverant" commedians, engaging in cheap insults and bathroom humor while castigating critics as stale.


Now you're really reaching.

Gadianton wrote:MAH 460R: Understanding Der Zauberflote as a "Degenerate" Text. This course looks at Mozart's The Magic Flute (Der Zauberflote) from the Mopologetic point of view, helping students to understand why this rates as the most "anti-Mormon" in the composer's canon. In particular, discussions and analyses will cover the Masonic motifs littered throughout the libretto, with emphasis on their ties to Mormonism. Due to spurious readings of anti-Mormon liturature, permission must be obtained by the MAH department head to enroll in this course.


I don't think this assessment is at all accurate for anyone.

Gadianton wrote:MAH 461R: Special Seminar on Gender Issues. Examines reasons why apologists hate art created by females, and the way(s) that this attitude intersects with beliefs pertaining to the priesthood. The course also looks at favored Mopologetic artists like Wagner and Eliot, with an eye to understanding the relevance of the "martyred masculinity" evident in their work.


I don't know any "apologists" who hate art done by females. I actually have a good friend who is an accomplished female artist, and I have long appreciated the feminine perspective in art. I don't think I've ever looked down on an artist because of their gender.

Gadianton wrote:MAH 499R: Senior thesis, for MAH majors only. Students will compose a single essay suitable for publication utilizing the principles learned in their undergraduate careers as rhetorical tools servicing the seemingly unrelated Mopologetic end of their choice.


Not very clever, and horribly inaccurate. I have to say you're wasting a significant portion of your life trying to denigrate perfectly intelligent and cultured people. I don't understand what you could possibly get out of these ignorant rants.
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maklelan wrote:
Gadianton wrote:The School of Mopologetic Aesthetic Hygiene
Course offerings for Fall Semester 2009

MAH 101: Discerning "Trash" from "Real Art" - This course teaches students the basics of selecting "respectable" art from the Mopologetic point of view. Special attention is given over to knowing how to reject anything that is bawdy, anything that contains profanity, or anything that features sexuality beyond a 6th grade level.

My favorite artist is Gustav Klimpt. I've never been called a bad Mormon because of it, and I rather enjoyed touring his section of the Belvedere the last time I was in Austria. I intend to go again next summer when I'm in Austria with my wife.

Klimt is a favorite of mine, too. My wife and I have a print of Der Kuss hanging on the wall in our bedroom. We bought it at the Belvedere, which is one of our favorite places in Vienna, which is one of our favorite places anywhere. We've also spent time at the Vienna Secession exhibit hall, mostly because of its association with Gustav Klimt.

I don't remember where or how I first came across Klimt. I don't think it was in my high school German classes, where, along with the language -- I had a superb teacher -- we learned about art, architecture, and music in the German-speaking world. We studied Klee and Feininger (another of my favorites) and Kokoschka and etc., but, for some reason, unless I'm mistaken, we didn't do Gustav Klimt.

Personal note: If I don't mention such things as this, the Scratches accuse me of liking paintings only by Arnold Friberg, Greg Olsen, and the staff of the Ensign. If I do mention such things as this, I'm accused of showing off and dropping names. The important thing from the Scratchist point of view is that I be attacked.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:Personal note: If I don't mention such things as this, the Scratches accuse me of liking paintings only by Arnold Friberg, Greg Olsen, and the staff of the Ensign.


Is there something wrong with liking such things? Is it somehow "unhip" or "uncool" to like Friberg, Olsen, and etc.?
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Morrissey wrote:The Magic Flute certainly beats "My Turn on Earth."

Yeah, but who beats the magic flute?
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Doctor Scratch wrote:Is there something wrong with liking such things? Is it somehow "unhip" or "uncool" to like Friberg, Olsen, and etc.?

You tell me, Scratch.

I never brought this stuff up. What has been your point -- besides expressing your obvious and obsessive dislike for me -- in criticizing my alleged taste in comedy, art, music, literature, and film?
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:Is there something wrong with liking such things? Is it somehow "unhip" or "uncool" to like Friberg, Olsen, and etc.?

You tell me, Scratch.


Hey---I'm not the one who brought them up. In fact, these names seemed to come totally out of the blue.

I never brought this stuff up.


???? Maklelan mentioned Klimt. You mentioned these LDS artists. EAllusion was the first one to bring up your apparently (based on your MB posts) "stuffy" tastes.
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You've done it several times over the past few months.

You've faulted my tastes in music, literature, art, film, and comedy, and have done so repeatedly.

You know as little about my private tastes in such things as you know about the FARMS peer review process.

You just make things up.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:Klimt is a favorite of mine, too. My wife and I have a print of Der Kuss hanging on the wall in our bedroom.


I have one as well. It's been packed away for some time. It's a shame they don't make full sized prints.

Daniel Peterson wrote:We bought it at the Belvedere, which is one of our favorite places in Vienna, which is one of our favorite places anywhere. We've also spent time at the Vienna Secession exhibit hall, mostly because of its association with Gustav Klimt.


I wonder who will be scuttling off to Google to find out how Klimt (I think I spelled his name with a /p/) is associated with what the good doctor feels is inappropriate art for Mormons.

Daniel Peterson wrote:I don't remember where or how I first came across Klimt. I don't think it was in my high school German classes, where, along with the language -- I had a superb teacher -- we learned about art, architecture, and music in the German-speaking world. We studied Klee and Feininger (another of my favorites) and Kokoschka and etc., but, for some reason, unless I'm mistaken, we didn't do Gustav Klimt.


I do recall seeing Der Kuss in High School German, but I was initially impressed with him my first go around in college when I was a fine arts major at the University of Northern Colorado in 1998.

Daniel Peterson wrote:Personal note: If I don't mention such things as this, the Scratches accuse me of liking paintings only by Arnold Friberg, Greg Olsen, and the staff of the Ensign. If I do mention such things as this, I'm accused of showing off and dropping names. The important thing from the Scratchist point of view is that I be attacked.


I've noticed the same thing thing concerning Scratch's dealings with me.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:You've done it several times over the past few months.

You've faulted my tastes in music, literature, art, film, and comedy, and have done so repeatedly.


"Faulted"? I don't think so. I may have pointed out that you seem to gravitate towards the more conservative, stereotypically "Mormon" things, but I don't think I said that that's a "fault." If you're embarrassed or insecure about your own likes and dislikes, that's your own problem, Prof. P.
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