Excommunication spans the veil of death

[_Yoda]

I have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about. Maybe I am just really naïve. Want to fill me in on who Greg Dodge is?

Greg Dodge is the supervisor of the "name removal" department. If you resign from the church, he's the one who sends you the letter saying "you are no longer a member of the Church..." or, "you didn't jump through the right hoops, see your bishop."

He's quite the celebrity among the rfm crowd.

Oh, OK.

Thanks for the clarification. I'm not an RfM regular, so I had no idea.

[_Analytics]

Thanks for the clarification. I'm not an RfM regular, so I had no idea.

I just peeked over there, and saw 13 posts that mention "Greg Dodge" (in comparison, there are only four with "Daniel Peterson"). He signed my Greg Dodge letter (i.e. resignation-confirmation letter) eleven years ago, and is still there, doing the very same job.

Yes, his name has become an adjective (e.g. "Yesterday was the two year anniversary of getting my Greg Dodge letter and I remain grateful to you fine group of people (and MormonNoMore) for helping me get out out what I was never happy being in.", and "One thing I did with my final Greg Dodge letter was to cross out 'Sister' and write in 'Ms' since I didn't recognize that title as the only person who can call me their sister is my actual brother.")

He is generally well liked and has the reputation for being helpful, friendly, professional, cool, and respectful. Not many people could do that job so well.

[_Yoda]

Am I missing something here?

Everyone has issue with my reply, like I had some original thought on this matter.

According to Rock, the work was being re-done for an excommunicated member who had no interest in his life of repairing the issue he was excomunicated for.

Is there some fresh new information he is going to learn on the other side of the veil? Will he get a better witness of the spirit there than he did here?

Maybe. Hopefully. Again, who are we to judge? The excommunicated member's mother, who, according to Rockslider, was a faithful, temple-attending member, certainly hoped that her child should at least be given all the tools available to eventually "see the light". If anything else, why should she be denied that hope?

I certainly have no keen insight on this individuals life. I am only working with the basic details given in the OP. But it seems to me that someone who had been excommunicated is not going to get a second chance in the afterlife that would entail a need to have their temple work "re-done" post mortem.

Obviously, since there is a provision in the Church Handbook of Instructions that does allow for exceptions through the granting of the First Presidency, there must be some type of second chances available. Otherwise, the provision would have never been made in the first place.

(I know...I know....It's a pain to debate with a fellow seminary graduate. Love ya, Gaz! )

[_harmony]

Personally, I doubt the man would be comfortable with all those CK types anyway. He can come with me to the Terrestial Kingdom.

[_RockSlider]

Personally, I doubt the man would be comfortable with all those CK types anyway. He can come with me to the Terrestial Kingdom.

Can not argue this point ... It's the mother-in-law's and hence my wifes pain which is harder to deal with.

[_harmony]

Personally, I doubt the man would be comfortable with all those CK types anyway. He can come with me to the Terrestial Kingdom.

Can not argue this point ... It's the mother-in-law's and hence my wifes pain which is harder to deal with.

I'm a convert, Rock, so I'm expecting to party with my family in the Terrestial Kingdom. Daddy's already there, putting the final touches on the patio, so it's ready when Momma shows up.

[_Gazelam]

Rock,

If so, no ... lets try this again, picture a 20 year old young man in an explosive home situation (his parents/siblings) and he ends up married (not in the temple) but divorced and excommunicated in short order.

This young man of 20 years then hits the streets, drugs, alcohol laden and homeless for the next 30 years till his death. Yea I'm pretty sure you are right, he had his chance, off to hell with you, he surely knew what hell is all about.

I'm gonna say this guy might just be a candidate for having his work done. From your description I think its a safe bet that he never had any sort of witness of the Spirit to work from. Its one thing to grow up in the church, and another thing entirely to get a witness and recognize it.

I was assuming he was a little better off in the gospel than he was. Excommunication may have done a bit to protect him from the responsibilities of being a priesthood bearer and the punishments associated with sinning while bearing that responsibility.