To what extent are TBM/Apologist tastes Brethren-directed?

[_Yoda]

My TBM family and friends saw a rendition of "Rent" and were utterly disgusted by it. They hated it. On one Facebook page a friend made a comment along the lines of: "If you like plays about gay people and glorifying homosexuality, you'll like Rent."

That's really too bad. They obviously missed the whole point of the show. My in-laws actually loved it, by the way.

Unfortunately, there are bigots everywhere....both in and out of the Mormon culture. Sorry to derail...."Rent" is just one of my favorite musicals, and it has such a powerful message about acceptance, love, and how you shouldn't let addiction ruin your life....follow your dreams.

I have the Blu Ray disc of the final "Rent" performance on Broadway. It is AMAZING! I cried at the end when the original cast came on stage and joined the performers.

We're having a get-together at my house with all of my voice students to watch it on my big screen TV.

Wish you guys were all close enough to NC to join us!

[_Yoda]

I saw Rent in New York. It was okay. It's based on La bohème. I like La bohème better.

I saw Miss Saigon in New York, too, It was also okay. It's based on Madama Butterfly, at least in part. I prefer Madama Butterfly.

For the judges: Does this make me uncultured, or pretentious? (Those, it seems, are the choices permitted.)

No, it just means you prefer opera to Musical Theater.

I love both, but I have a real soft spot for Musical Theater, and prefer the latter.

My brother, however, is a professional opera singer...an amazing tenor.

I appreciate both art forms. Everyone's tastes are a little different, which I think is a good thing.

[_gramps]

Maklelan is just being and ass. He is just here to harass people. He doesn't take any thing here seriously.

Well, I agree with the first sentence. But, watch it. He will come and get you for your spelling. I think, too, that it was a grievous misspelling, to boot. Shame on you.

I disagree with you on the third sentence. He takes this all too seriously, in my opinion.

It is hard to tell why he is here, actually, but to call everyone an idiot. Well, maybe you are right with your second sentence, after all.

[_maklelan]

I guess you're saying that you don't understand what's different about wine pairings at The French Laundry vs. the wine pairing suggestions at The Olive Garden? Okay. Do you know what a sommelier is?

And you've ignored my concerns only to reassert something stupid. I clearly stated I was not comparing the two, but pointing out that mere awareness of the practice of pairing wine with food does not mean someone is cultured. That was Gad's assertion. Your argument is totally irrelevant. I mentioned twice already that I was a wine host for two years. If you want to insist I am lying just say it, but don't insult my intelligence with such a stupid question.

If this were true, then we could remove tea from Japan and China, wine from France, vodka from Russia, coffee from Turkey, beer from Germany, and mezcal from Mexico without any change to the culture whatsoever. Obviously, that's completely absurd.

Completely ridiculous. Saying that one can experience a great degree of cultural fullness without alcohol or tea than you or Gad has experience with it in no way indicates removing those things would not change the culture "whatsoever." What an asinine statement.

I would bet that these "developments" are all within safe, Brethren-sanctioned limits, but feel free to prove me wrong with salient examples. (I predict that you won't.)

Since the church's standards don't handicap acculturation to any significant degree, they were. You seem to think you can win arguments by trying to trap Mormons in between your stupid standards and being accused of being a bad Mormon. How childish.

[_karl61]

I love Rosario Dawson -RENT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TOQxSvA_zs

[_gramps]

Mak wrote:

A grievous misspelling is adding a /k/ to the end of a word that has no /k/, or adding the /u/ to the wrong syllable in "restaurant." A regular misspelling would be a typo, metathesis of a letter, or something like that.

CFR. Where is that rule spelled out? I would like to check it for myself.

[_Daniel Peterson]

No, it just means you prefer opera to Musical Theater.

Actually, I'm not sure that I do. I really, really like Les Misérables -- I hope it won't offend the Scratches that I cite the title in the French! -- and a fair number of other musicals. And there are quite a few operas that I find relatively uninteresting or, anyway, dislike for some reason or another.

But I don't drink Bordeaux, so you can pretty well write me off in either case as an uncultured rube.

[_Doctor Scratch]

I guess you're saying that you don't understand what's different about wine pairings at The French Laundry vs. the wine pairing suggestions at The Olive Garden? Okay. Do you know what a sommelier is?

And you've ignored my concerns only to reassert something stupid. I clearly stated I was not comparing the two, but pointing out that mere awareness of the practice of pairing wine with food does not mean someone is cultured. That was Gad's assertion. Your argument is totally irrelevant. I mentioned twice already that I was a wine host for two years.

A "wine host"? Do you have an MS or MW? Or, is this just the food & beverage version of a WalMart customer greeter? Since you conflated The Olive Garden with fine dining, I'm really left to assume that you're out to sea on this issue, Mak.

If you want to insist I am lying just say it, but don't insult my intelligence with such a stupid question.

I'm not trying to insult your intelligence. It just seems that you don't know what you're talking about, and that your acculturation in this arena is seriously lacking, and has perhaps been in decline post-baptism.

If this were true, then we could remove tea from Japan and China, wine from France, vodka from Russia, coffee from Turkey, beer from Germany, and mezcal from Mexico without any change to the culture whatsoever. Obviously, that's completely absurd.

Completely ridiculous. Saying that one can experience a great degree of cultural fullness without alcohol or tea than you or Gad has experience with it in no way indicates removing those things would not change the culture "whatsoever." What an asinine statement.

Nonetheless, it does demonstrate how much of an outsider you are when it comes to these facets of culture and taste.

I would bet that these "developments" are all within safe, Brethren-sanctioned limits, but feel free to prove me wrong with salient examples. (I predict that you won't.)

Since the church's standards don't handicap acculturation to any significant degree, they were. You seem to think you can win arguments by trying to trap Mormons in between your stupid standards and being accused of being a bad Mormon. How childish.

They are not "my" standards, Mak. They are the Brethren's.

[_Yoda]

I love Rosario Dawson -RENT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TOQxSvA_zs

I prefer Renee Xone's voice from the final show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w48UFnGMwqo

I gasped when I saw how far down she would drop if she fell during that number!

What an amazing "triple threat"!

OK...sorry for the derail, Gad...but you did start a thread about culture.

[_maklelan]

A "wine host"? Do you have an MS or MW? Or, is this just the food & beverage version of a WalMart customer greeter? Since you conflated The Olive Garden with fine dining,

And for the third time in this thread you lie about what I've said. You simply cannot be honest, can you?

They are not "my" standards, Mak. They are the Brethren's.

The standards to which I was very clearly alluding where Doc's stupid ideas about what constituted culture. You lie and you don't pay any attention at all. I'm done with you, hopefully for good this time.