The Mormon Apologist's Modus Operandi

[_AlmaBound]

While there would be some differences in rigidity, unevenness, etc., I think it's close enough to tell that the story is not only plausible, but likely true.

If we're going for plausible and likely, the nod goes to rolled copper printing plates as a closer fit, as I see it.

[_MAsh]

While there would be some differences in rigidity, unevenness, etc., I think it's close enough to tell that the story is not only plausible, but likely true.

If we're going for plausible and likely, the nod goes to rolled copper printing plates as a closer fit, as I see it.

Even if you are right (and I don't) the copper plates could still match what Emma was describing-- hence, this argument is really a silly one.

Mike

[_AlmaBound]

this argument is really a silly one.

lol you're telling me!

I'm not convinced there were any plates at all, props or not, based on Martin Harris' comments about them being seen with the "spiritual eye."

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

So I am wondering if your experiment contained the correct variables - I understand it was a quick test, but I am not sure that the plates would have been made in the same manner as in a goldsmith's shop today.

I kind of figured that's where you were going. :)

I'm pretty sure that the gold sheet I have wasn't made in exactly the same manner as in ancient times (plus mine is 14kt & probably has purer alloys, etc.). While there would be some differences in rigidity, unevenness, etc., I think it's close enough to tell that the story is not only plausible, but likely true.

Until someone wants to run an exact experiment we'll never know, will we? But as it stands, it seems perfectly logical from the gold piece I have and I think it's a big stretch to deny Emma's testimony based on her description of the plates.

Mike

Sir,

Would you mind posting pictures of the plate you made?

Very Respectfully,

Doctor CamNC4Me

[_AlmaBound]

Sir,

Would you mind posting pictures of the plate you made?

Very Respectfully,

Doctor CamNC4Me

I wouldn't mind seeing a photo of this experiment myself, if it wouldn't be too much trouble, Mike.

[_wenglund]

Oh, I know... what an outrageous interpretation of your words given the context!

Please, by all means, tell us what you really mean. Thanks, -Some Schmo-

To the comprehending mind, the correct interpretation should be obvious. For the uncomprehending and closed mind, further explanation would be fruitless, particularly since, as previously explained, it would be viewed as defending the indefensible.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Some Schmo]

Oh, I know... what an outrageous interpretation of your words given the context!

Please, by all means, tell us what you really mean. Thanks, -Some Schmo-

To the comprehending mind, the correct interpretation should be obvious. For the uncomprehending and closed mind, further explanation would be fruitless, particularly since, as previously explained, it would be viewed as defending the indefensible.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Translation: You were right in your assessment, Schmo, and I don't really have an adequate explanation, so I'll just pretend I do and attempt to insult you at the same time, because that's the best I can do.

Gotcha. You're as moral as the next christian.

Well, you're right about one thing. The correct interpretation was obvious. That you would deny it it not exactly surprising.

This has been quite enlightening. The next time I try to explain to you why you're a bigot toward homosexuals, I can save myself some time and ignore your opposing point of view by telling you you're mind is closed and uncomprehending, since you already can relate to that concept. Good stuff.

Thanks, -Some Schmo-

[_wenglund]

Translation: You were right in your assessment, Schmo, and I don't really have an adequate explanation, so I'll just pretend I do and attempt to insult you at the same time, because that's the best I can do.

Gotcha. You're as moral as the next christian.

Well, you're right about one thing. The correct interpretation was obvious. That you would deny it it not exactly surprising.

This has been quite enlightening. The next time I try to explain to you why you're a bigot toward homosexuals, I can save myself some time and ignore your opposing point of view by telling you you're mind is closed and uncomprehending, since you already can relate to that concept. Good stuff.

Thanks, -Some Schmo-

I appreciate you unwittingly confirming my point.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Some Schmo]

I appreciate you unwittingly confirming my point.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

I have no doubt that in Wade world, I did. But then, you generally confuse reality with your imagination, so that's hardly surprising.

But if I helped make you feel better about yourself by helping you add another layer of delusion, then kudos to me.

*pats self on back*

(I wonder why it is that when I try to see the world from Wade's point of view [ie. his imagination], Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch come to mind...)

Thanks, -Some Schmo-






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[_wenglund]

I have no doubt that in Wade world, I did. But then, you generally confuse reality with your imagination, so that's hardly surprising.

But if I helped make you feel better about yourself by helping you add another layer of delusion, then kudos to me.

*pats self on back*

(I wonder why it is that when I try to see the world from Wade's point of view [ie. his imagination], Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch come to mind...)

Thanks, -Some Schmo-

Yet another unwitting confirmation of my point--speaking ironically of things imagined.

You, of course, are free to continue. But, there really is no need since you have already well established my point as it is--not that your closed and uncomprehending mind is capable of doing otherwise, including in a appropose, self-congratulatory way.

Whatever the case, I will let you have the last word.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-