Rational justification for Polygamy?

[_marg]

quote="Joey"]

Well given that "rational argument", why don't the CEOs of General Growth Properties and Simon Properties (the two largest developers of shopping malls) practice polygamy???

What am I missing?[/quote]

I don't understand your argument.

One way of keeping recent female converts to Mormonism and have them stay within Mormonism is to marry them and keep them pregnant.

[_harmony]

This is from wiki pedia on Brigham Young but this is not where I read it, I read something which Brigham Young wrote which indicated this.

Brigham Young refused to discuss the private details of his family life. He had in his lifetime 26 wives and 56 children by 16 of those wives. He took good care of his family and was not considered dictatorial or autocratic by them. He even granted a couple of divorces to his wives. Beyond those 26, Brigham Young married other women, with whom he did not cohabit (See Polygamy for a more detailed account of the various types of polygamous marriages). Young married these women to support them and their children financially, as there were many more female converts to the Church than male.

Brigham was a wannabe, a Johnny-come-lately. He was only following in Joseph's footsteps. Joseph started it without authority and without blessing, putting words in God's mouth. And every reason given for why he died when he died is rooted in polygamy.

The answer is still No. Try reading a bit more than wiki, marg.

[_harmony]

Well given that "rational argument", why don't the CEOs of General Growth Properties and Simon Properties (the two largest developers of shopping malls) practice polygamy???

What am I missing?

I don't understand your argument.

One way of keeping recent female converts to Mormonism and have them stay within Mormonism is to marry them and keep them pregnant.

He's saying the CEO's of GGP and Simon Properties should be practicing polygamy (which they may be, in the form of serial divorce, for all I know), if you think polygamy is ever rational.

[_rocket]

Matt Ridley?

[_harmony]

Or more so, how about it was needful that the restoration of all things was prophesied long ago and the law of plural marriage had to be established in latter days to fullfill all things that pertain to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

The house of Israel was founded upon polygamy! It it is fitting that Latter-day Saints imitated this practice. The other Christian sects got caught with their pants down and failed to realize a restoration of all things was already written in the plan of God. had not the Mormons done it first the other religions would have tried it. But they were much too late.

Paul O

Horse pucky. Christ fulfilled the Law... all of it. The ancient Isrealites had a lot of other nondoctrinal cultural practices that weren't restored, so that argument is really lame and easily punctured.

C'mon, Paul. You can do better than that.

[_Paul Osborne]

Horse pucky. Christ fulfilled the Law... all of it. The ancient Isrealites had a lot of other nondoctrinal cultural practices that weren't restored, so that argument is really lame and easily punctured.

C'mon, Paul. You can do better than that.

Harmony,

Christ fulfilled the Law of Moses – the various rites, ordinances, and rituals that pertain to sacrifice. You know as well as I do that blessed plural marriage was before the law of Moses. There are no teachings in the scriptures that say Christ fulfilled (done away) the law of marriage as practiced by the ancients, notably, Abraham.

Did I do better that time?



Paul O

[_marg]

Brigham was a wannabe, a Johnny-come-lately.

That is irrelevant.

He was only following in Joseph's footsteps.

Again irrelevant.

The fact is B.Y. appreciated that Mormonism attracted more women. I'm sure J. Smith did as well. Even the early Christian church it was known attracted more women than men.

Joseph started it without authority and without blessing, putting words in God's mouth.

Who cares, that doesn't address anything I said.

And every reason given for why he died when he died is rooted in polygamy.

Again irrelevant

The answer is still No. Try reading a bit more than wiki, marg.

Try trying to counter ...arguments made.

[_harmony]

Brigham was a wannabe, a Johnny-come-lately.

That is irrelevant.

He was only following in Joseph's footsteps.

Again irrelevant.

The fact is B.Y. appreciated that Mormonism attracted more women. I'm sure J. Smith did as well. Even the early Christian church it was known attracted more women than men.

Joseph started it without authority and without blessing, putting words in God's mouth.

Who cares, that doesn't address anything I said.

And every reason given for why he died when he died is rooted in polygamy.

Again irrelevant

The answer is still No. Try reading a bit more than wiki, marg.

Try trying to counter ...arguments made.

The point, marg, is that all discussions surrounding justifying polygamy start and end with Joseph, and have nothing to do with Brigham. Brigham was not even in the picture when polygamy was started. So bringing up anything Brigham said when discussing the justification for polygamy, which is this thread's subject, is both immaterial and off topic. Brigham was simply riding Joseph's coattails when he tried his own hand at justifying the restoration of the abomination.

If the topic is continuing polygamy, or expanding polygamy, or otherwise fiddling with polygamy, then you can bring up Brigham. But Brigham had nothing to do with the supposed restoration of polygamy, and thus is not part of the justification discussion.

Please try to keep up.

[_Joey]

Marg,

Can you tell me what the difference is, that you believe, between Joseph Smith and Warren Jeffs when it came to polygamy????

[_The Nehor]

God told us to do it.