Obama sides with Chavez style "democracy"

[_JohnStuartMill]

JSM thinks he's an expert on economics, and his evidence for this is his support for a moron who is running this country into the ground in record time?

I don't remember claiming to be an expert on economics, but then again, you don't have to be an expert to know a hell of a lot more than the dolts that populate this board.

Economics is an inexact science and is about as predictable as the weather; what really matters are results. Obama has gotten nothing right so far. Everything he has done has had a negative effect.

You're not basing this on an appropriate counterfactual. You need to be able to say that, without Obama's policies, things would have been better than they actually are.

I guess they'll have to continue to milk the "but we inherited this from Bush" excuse just a little longer. Things took a drastic turn for the worse when Obama took over, and for good reason.

Huh? Things were already bad when Obama took over. The markets are up by about 15% since Inauguration Day.

Just how high does the unemployment rate have to go before the brain-dead Obama worshippers like JSM admit they made a mistke and that Obama doesn't have a damn clue?

It has to go significantly above where it was expected to go without the stimulus. Again, you've given no counterfactual.

[_JohnStuartMill]

And when that doesn't happen, I'll get a retraction and a sincere apology from bcspace?

Why would I have to? I only said it was brewing. I don't know if Zeyala will actually get the civil war/coup he's called for and the US/EU/UN is paving the way for. His border protest is fizzling at the moment.

In other words, your statement is meaningless. Thanks for clarifying.

JSM thinks he's an expert on economics, and his evidence for thsi is his support for a moron who is running this country into the ground in record time?

I don't think there is a leftwing democrat in existence who knows anything at all about economics.

Heh. Where, again, did you study economics?

[_bcspace]

So the Obama administration is going ahead with the cutting off of aid. This certainly is not a ploy as JSM suggested to keep Chavez off balance. The bottom line is that Hillary still says this was a military take over when it was the Congress on the courts that ordered the military to remove the president.

Heck, the new president is even from this guy's own poltical party and even he says we're not going to have another Chavez here. Bottom line: This is the simply result of Obama being cut from the same poltical cloth as Chavez.

The only reason why we in the US don't have food staples disappearing off the shelves right now is because there are constitutional protections and still a realatively large number of educated voters to protect us from Obama and his pawns.

[_bcspace]

This is what you get with a Marxist revolutionary running the White House.

Chavez, Lula, Obama Make Honduras Unstable: Alexandre Marinis

If Honduras descends into civil war, we can thank Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and credit Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva with an assist.

Pushing the Central American nation to the brink is precisely what Chavez accomplished when he persuaded Lula to welcome ousted Honduran President Manuel Zelaya inside the Brazilian embassy in Tegucigalpa, the capital, last month.

Reasonable people can argue whether Zelaya deserved to be tossed out of office. The fact is his ouster was legal, according to a detailed report issued by the U.S. Congressional Research Service.

The Honduran Congress has the authority to rebuke the president and decide constitutional intent, the report says. “In the case against Zelaya, the National Congress interpreted the power to disapprove of the conduct of the president to encompass the power to remove him from office, based on the results of a special, extensive investigation,” it states.

Chavez and Lula engaged in wise-guy diplomacy. Their actions violated international laws by helping Zelaya enter the country illegally. And they disrupted the economy of Central America’s second-poorest country, which was already reeling from the global economic crisis.

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Making things even worse, President Barack Obama’s administration, which correctly criticized Venezuela and Brazil for letting Zelaya into Honduras, says it won’t recognize the scheduled November election unless the political crisis is resolved.

That gives carte blanche to Zelaya. The more turmoil Zelaya creates, the closer to civil war the country will be.

[_richardMdBorn]

If Honduras descends into Civil War or becomes a communist dictatorship, BHO will doubtless get another Nobel Peace Prize (note to the CNN fact check group - I'm being sarcastic).

More Stonewalling from the Most Transparent Administration in History [Andy McCarthy]

So much for the "unprecedented level of openness in Government" promised by our Nobel Laureate in Chief. While Attorney General Eric Holder continues stonewalling the Civil Rights Commission on the Justice Department's stunning dismissal of the civil rights case against the New Black Panther Party in Philadelphia, we now learn the State Department is stonewalling Congress on the legal reasoning behind the administration's support for Chavez-wannabe, Manuel Zelaya.

Senator Jim Demint writes in the Wall Street Journal about his factfinding visit to Honduras, where Zelaya — a thuggish would-be dictator who was trying to destroy the rule of law in his country — was ousted as president in a manner consistent with the Honduran constitution. The Obama administration — which couldn't roll over fast enough when Ahmadinejad had to steal the already-rigged Iranian "election" and the regime brutally jailed, tortured and killed dissenters — is playing hardball with Honduras (at least when it's not slapping Israel and the Dalai Lama around), demanding that the thug be restored to power. But, as Sen. Demint notes, "the only thorough examination of the facts to date—conducted by a senior analyst at the Law Library of Congress—confirms the legality and constitutionality of Mr. Zelaya's ouster. (It's on the Internet here .)"

So why is the administration bullying a poor, tiny, Western democracy? Demint continues:

In a day packed with meetings, we met only one person in Honduras who opposed Mr. Zelaya's ouster, who wishes his return, and who mystifyingly rejects the legitimacy of the November elections: U.S. Ambassador Hugo Llorens. When I asked Ambassador Llorens why the U.S. government insists on labeling what appears to the entire country to be the constitutional removal of Mr. Zelaya a "coup," he urged me to read the legal opinion drafted by the State Department's top lawyer, Harold Koh. As it happens, I have asked to see Mr. Koh's report before and since my trip, but all requests to publicly disclose it have been denied. [Emphasis added.]

As Ed Whelan and I pointed out when Koh was up for confirmation, the former Yale Law School dean is the nation's leading transnationalist. He has zero respect for national constitutions (including ours), preferring a post-sovereign order in which international law profs, transnational organizations, and free-lancing judges will be our overlords. What is happening with Honduras is exactly what anyone who familiarized himself with Koh's record would have predicted. Yet, he was confirmed by a 62-35 margin, with support from the usual GOP suspects: Lugar, Voinovich, Snowe, Collins, and Martinez.

Will these Republicans who helped foist Koh on us now join others demanding that President Transparency release Koh's legal opinion on Honduras? (I won't ask about the 19 Republican Senators who thought Holder would be a fabulous, non-political Attorney General ...)

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