Did someone say horses?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Hello Everyone,

I do believe it is a bit scatty to openly muse about murdering one's child if he or she is homosexual. I also believe it is equally scatty to openly state one's desire to make indigent a child for being homosexual. These are two hateful and, dare I say, Satanic impulses.

Very Respectfully,

Doctor CamNC4Me

[_KimberlyAnn]

Gaz, I don't think you're correctly interpreting the parable of the Prodigal Son.

Here is the Biblical text:

Luke 15:11-32 (New International Version)

The Parable of the Lost Son
11Jesus continued: "There was a man who had two sons. 12The younger one said to his father, 'Father, give me my share of the estate.' So he divided his property between them.
13"Not long after that, the younger son got together all he had, set off for a distant country and there squandered his wealth in wild living. 14After he had spent everything, there was a severe famine in that whole country, and he began to be in need. 15So he went and hired himself out to a citizen of that country, who sent him to his fields to feed pigs. 16He longed to fill his stomach with the pods that the pigs were eating, but no one gave him anything.

17"When he came to his senses, he said, 'How many of my father's hired men have food to spare, and here I am starving to death! 18I will set out and go back to my father and say to him: Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. 19I am no longer worthy to be called your son; make me like one of your hired men.' 20So he got up and went to his father.
"But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion for him; he ran to his son, threw his arms around him and kissed him.

21"The son said to him, 'Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.[a]'

22"But the father said to his servants, 'Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. 23Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let's have a feast and celebrate. 24For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.' So they began to celebrate.

25"Meanwhile, the older son was in the field. When he came near the house, he heard music and dancing. 26So he called one of the servants and asked him what was going on. 27'Your brother has come,' he replied, 'and your father has killed the fattened calf because he has him back safe and sound.'

28"The older brother became angry and refused to go in. So his father went out and pleaded with him. 29But he answered his father, 'Look! All these years I've been slaving for you and never disobeyed your orders. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends. 30But when this son of yours who has squandered your property with prostitutes comes home, you kill the fattened calf for him!'

31" 'My son,' the father said, 'you are always with me, and everything I have is yours. 32But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.' "

Gaz, the younger son was undoubtedly not an easy person to live with. It would have been highly unusual for a son to ask for his share of the inheritance early. Inheritances were given out on the occasion of a father's death. By asking for his inheritance early, the younger son was showing just how little he cared for his father. The kid must have been a real jerk. Still, the father didn't kick the boy out of the house. The son had time to gather the rest of his belongings and prepare to take off on his own, apparently never to return. I imagine the message he was sending his dad was, "You are dead to me." The son left of his own accord. His father didn't throw him out of the house.

After losing all his money and becoming utterly destitute, the Prodigal Son decided to return home and apologize to his father in the hopes that he could live as one of his father's servants. But before he could do that, while he was still A LONG WAY OFF, his father saw him, was filled with compassion for him, ran to him, threw his arms around him and kissed him.

Gaz, the father hadn't received an apology yet! He knew only one thing: His boy was home.

If you want to throw a minor child out of your home for being gay, and then not associate with him until he repents and asks forgiveness, please don't misuse the Parable of the Prodigal Son as justification.

Oh, there's one more important part of the parable: the oldest son. I wonder if he's not really the point of the whole thing? The pastor at the Methodist church I attend likes to call him "The Prodigal Who Stayed Home." A harsh Pharisee. Don't be that older brother, Gaz. It seems to me, that's who you're modeling.

Please go see your sister.

KA

[_RockSlider]

Hammer/nail ... KA swinging hammer and hitting nail squarely on the head!

Dang our own licked cupcake carpenter!

[_Paul Osborne]

Cupcake,

Thank you for sharing your comments about the Prodigal Son. I agree with you completely. Further, it is one of the most touching stories in all of scripture and teaches us how to be good Christians in practice and not in name only.

Gaz, throwing a child out of the house with contempt is not Christian. I don't care how many Mormons do it as a badge of righteousness, it's not a Christian thing to do. There is nothing you could say or quote that would change my mind. Not even a loud voice out of heaven for all to hear could change my mind.

Paul O

[_Jersey Girl]

KA,

Wonderful description of the prodigal son!

Please go see your sister.

Second that!

[_zzyzx]

Yep, throw out your own kids but invite in Stake Presidents like Junior Miller (Miller Meats, Logan, UT) who, when he owned a Savings and Loan in Ogden would follow the women into the restroom and molest them. Now there is a good choice, your kid or the Stake Prez... who do you choose to dump from the home if you are truly listening to 'the whisperings of the Spirit'?

Bet you would have felt great having a con-man like Paul Dunn visit while shoving your gay kid out the back door. (would you trip the kid on the steps too?)

[Guest]

[attempts to mock me for being part of "the Twitter generation" when he doesn't know the first thing about me (the attempts therefore fall flat)]

What the hell is your problem, guy? Are you always such a jerk to random people on the internet who don't even want to talk to you?

No, not always.

[_Gazelam]

CK,

(wherein Gaz would have Muslim women killed for attempting to choose their own husbands)

I have enough views of my own people disagree with without your casting false ones upon me. I never claimed that, nor would I.

[_Gazelam]

Yep, throw out your own kids but invite in Stake Presidents like Junior Miller (Miller Meats, Logan, UT) who, when he owned a Savings and Loan in Ogden would follow the women into the restroom and molest them. Now there is a good choice, your kid or the Stake Prez... who do you choose to dump from the home if you are truly listening to 'the whisperings of the Spirit'?

Bet you would have felt great having a con-man like Paul Dunn visit while shoving your gay kid out the back door. (would you trip the kid on the steps too?)

I don't have any idea who Junior Miller is, never heard of him.

Paul Dunn fell from grace shortly before my mission. Very sad.

[_Brackite]

CK,

(wherein Gaz would have Muslim women killed for attempting to choose their own husbands)

I have enough views of my own people disagree with without your casting false ones upon me. I never claimed that, nor would I.

Gaz,

You misinterpreted what CK was stating in his Post. I would strongly suggest to you that you Please read his whole Post within the correct context carefully.