What is there in Gaz's confessions that leads us to believe he wouldn't kill? I take what a man says at face value.
Look, Ray is talking nasty trash talk. He is cussing a lot these days. Some of us cuss when we get in that mood. I do it sometime and say "f***". But most of do not talk about murdering our children. THAT IS EXTREMELY RARE AND DANGEROUS! I cannot justify that. I wouldn't be a good Mormon if I did. And, I know what it means to be a good Mormon.
Paul O
Calling someone a "gay killer" is not cussing. It is a serious accusation and in this case, it is a lie. Ray is accusing him of killing, Paul. Not in terms of what he would do...but in terms that he has done it.
It's wrong. It's a lie.
And you are still justifying.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Calling someone a "gay killer" is not cussing. It is a serious accusation and in this case, it is a lie. Ray is accusing him of killing, Paul. Not in terms of what he would do...but in terms that he has done it.
It's wrong. It's a lie.
And you are still justifying.
I am a GOD now so listen up.
As a man thinketh so is he. A man who pretends to have sex with another man's wife has committed adultery in his heart. A father who imagines murdering his gay son has committed murder in his heart. Ray A. has not lied. He knows the ropes and is telling it as it is. Look, Gaz, in my view should have his temple recommend revoked. His heart has murder in it. He has expressed that. He has confessed that. It's sad, but I believe Gaz can turn himself around by giving his heart to Christ and softening himself in the Spirit.
As a man thinketh so is he. A man who pretends to have sex with another man's wife has committed adultery in his heart. A father who imagines murdering his gay son has committed murder in his heart. Ray A. has not lied. He knows the ropes and is telling it as it is. Look, Gaz, in my view should have his temple recommend revoked. His heart has murder in it. He has expressed that. He has confessed that. It's sad, but I believe Gaz can turn himself around by giving his heart to Christ and softening himself in the Spirit.
Now, Liz, baby, crown me a god!!!!
Paul O
I knew that sooner or later someone would use the Bible as justification for Ray's FALSE accusation against Gaz.
That would be cool if only Ray believed the Bible. He doesn't. He doesn't believe the Bible, thinks Mormonism and religion in general are both a crock, and yet he is disingenously trying to use it on Gaz.
Ray is a hypocritical non-thinking lying irresponsible hack.
The evidence of that is all over this thread.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Jersey Girl wrote:Calling someone a "gay killer" is not cussing. It is a serious accusation and in this case, it is a lie. Ray is accusing him of killing, Paul. Not in terms of what he would do...but in terms that he has done it.
It's wrong. It's a lie.
And you are still justifying.
I will condescend to answer the madwoman.
Here is the exchange between beastie and Gaz:
beastie wrote:
Let's just hope for gaze's kids' sake that none of them end up being gay. Poor things would be turned out on the streets.
Gaz's reply:
They would only be turned out into the streets because it is currently against the law to drown them in a sack in a river.
Okay, perhaps I should have written "potential Gay killer". But please note that Jersey Girl is willing to extend the mercy of hyperbole to Gaz, but not ME!
And finally, Jersey Girl, here's the really big problem I have with you: You profess to be a Christian, but I don't see any evidence of that in your posts.
So either kick the "Christian" bucket and join marg in atheism, or continue to be a hypocrite.
Jersey Girl wrote:Calling someone a "gay killer" is not cussing. It is a serious accusation and in this case, it is a lie. Ray is accusing him of killing, Paul. Not in terms of what he would do...but in terms that he has done it.
It's wrong. It's a lie.
And you are still justifying.
I will condescend to answer the madwoman.
Here is the exchange between beastie and Gaz:
beastie wrote:
Let's just hope for gaze's kids' sake that none of them end up being gay. Poor things would be turned out on the streets.
Gaz's reply:
They would only be turned out into the streets because it is currently against the law to drown them in a sack in a river.
Okay, perhaps I should have written "potential Gay killer". But please note that Jersey Girl is willing to extend the mercy of hyperbole to Gaz, but not ME!
And finally, Jersey Girl, here's the really big problem I have with you: You profess to be a Christian, but I don't see any evidence of that in your posts.
So either kick the "Christian" bucket and join marg in atheism, or continue to be a hypocrite.
Here's the problem I have with you, Ray. You're a lying irresponsible drunk.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Gazelam wrote:Ok, This thread left the tracks a long time ago, and is now just an amorphous pustule. Can we lock it or cast it away to a dark hole somewhere please?
(Moderator Note)
I am locking this thread per thread starter's request. I am also going to be moving this thread to Off Topic, since it is no longer a thread having to do with Mormonism, but a thread having to do with Gaz and personal issues involving his sister.
Since the topic got locked before I could hit "enter".
False, to those who think the sentiments of Ray, Pokatator, or others are worse than Gaz's. There have been several SUV owners who no doubt have verbally expressed the most terrible things imaginable at me for keeping my cruise control locked down and not showing any interest in forfeiting my rightful place within a freeway lane. But this would be nothing compared to me saying something simple on this forum with no foul language or bad names like, if my child doesn't get straight A's this semester, I'll simply tell her she isn't loved anymore, independent of whether I do have a child.
Given that we're all pretty much anonymous posters here, anonymous insults really mean very little, especially when there's no reason to take the insults very seriously into in real life. If someone says they are planning on disowning a family member in in real life for stupid reasons, and the comment is believable to be carried out in reality, and the person making the statement seems sincere and not just trolling, there is virtually nothing Ray A or Pokatator could hurl at Gaz to rival it.
Jersey Girl's stupid "drunk" insults at Ray are a perfect example of words less condemnable than Gaz's well-intentioned statements about disowning children. They are freeway cursing words by someone who doesn't have a lot of self control but generally speaking is of no threat to anyone.
I don't have it in for Gaz because he's an apologist.. Since he kind of, or rather, totally sucks as an apologist and doesn't really put effort into it anyway, and since I think otherwise we probably have some things in common, I'd probably just ignore him and keep the conversation going on the music thread.
But over a long period of time Gaz seems to me to have revealed himself to be a person I can't respect on any level, though, if he's just trolling, I'd have to give him quite a lot of credit and take that statement back. I know some people think I'm joking when I've stated certain apologists with nasty online habits would be welcome for a bbq, but I don't take bbqs lightly and such sentiments are in fact sincere and partially based on -- though I could always be wrong -- my separating the poster from the posts.
But Gaz, I would not want to meet, and would not be welcome at my bbq. I would have no interest whatsoever in having any kind of friendship with him. However, if I had a child like Gaz, as much as it would pain me, I'd try to work it out somehow.
I almost never say this, but Gaz, if his online personality matches in real life at least 75%, should seek therapy. Ok, that's my last statement on the matter for now.
Have a nice day, everyone.
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
[MODERATOR NOTE #2: With all due respect to my moderator, Thread unlocked again since locking threads is what MA&D does, not what we do.
If people no longer wish to participate on this thread, then they'll stop of their own accord. If they do wish to continue, then who are we to tell them they can't?]
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
I mean this in a positive way: I want Gaz to tell us how his attitude towards his sister makes him a loving Christian. Loving one another is the second great commandment. It would be interesting to learn how Gaz feels he is in keeping with this commandment seeing his Heavenly Father placed this spirit child in his direct path here in mortality.