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Well, Whether You like it or not, FOX News rates as America's Number One Cable News Network. (1)


1. http://www.tvweek.com/news/2009/03/cnn_ ... bc_gro.php

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/3 ... 04260.html
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So some people prefer pundits who talk over people they disagree with, selectivly interview people who already agree with them. O'Reilly has no self-control over his mouth (see that youtube video) and was involved in a sexual harressment case where he had some interesting (dirty) sexual views. Beck is losing it.
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aussieguy55 wrote:So some people prefer pundits who talk over people they disagree with, selectivly interview people who already agree with them. O'Reilly has no self-control over his mouth (see that youtube video) and was involved in a sexual harressment case where he had some interesting (dirty) sexual views. Beck is losing it.
Five of the six major networks lean left (ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and MSNBC). Fox leans right. Would it be more healthy to have all six lean left? Which channels have covered Climategate?
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A really good view on "Faux News"


I dunno, it's a far cry from the offenses of not reporing on Obama's Marxist and criminal connections, or the fact that he has not shown constitutional eligibility for President.

It's a far cry from forging documents purporting to show that G.W. somehow dodged military service.

It's a far cry from talking the economy or the war down, thus killing thousands of people or robbing them of their livelyhoods.

It's a far cry from being complicit in climategate, voter fraud, and being an instrument of propaganda for the left.

etc.etc.

Fox leans right. Would it be more healthy to have all six lean left? Which channels have covered Climategate?


Amen except that Fox is actually quite centrist.
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Brackite wrote:Well, Whether You like it or not, FOX News rates as America's Number One Cable News Network.


Innovative too. News had been broadcast for over half a century before Fox jumped the old paradigm of reporting the news and began creating their own news.
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moksha wrote:
Brackite wrote:Well, Whether You like it or not, FOX News rates as America's Number One Cable News Network.


Innovative too. News had been broadcast for over half a century before Fox jumped the old paradigm of reporting the news and began creating their own news.
You ignore all of the scandals at the NYT, Washington Post, NBC, CBS, etc. Circa 1985, I saw a special on CBS hosted by Dan Rather about fighting in Afghanistan. Some of the footage purported to be a night fight between Soviet tanks and Afghans. It looked suspicious to me. I didn't think a cameraman could be that close and survive. In 1993, I spoke with a man at a conference who had been in Afghanistan. I asked him about this, and he knew the people who had faked this footage. They were amused that they had snookered Rather.
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moksha wrote:
Brackite wrote: Well, Whether You like it or not, FOX News rates as America's Number One Cable News Network.


Innovative too. News had been broadcast for over half a century before Fox jumped the old paradigm of reporting the news and began creating their own news.



FOX News Rules!

CNN And MSNBC Suck!
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moksha wrote:
Brackite wrote:Well, Whether You like it or not, FOX News rates as America's Number One Cable News Network.


Innovative too. News had been broadcast for over half a century before Fox jumped the old paradigm of reporting the news and began creating their own news.
mainstream media reporters has a long disreputable history of making up or distorting events. Walter Duranty in the 1930s got a Pulitzer while whitewashing Stalin’s Soviet Union. http://www.nationalreview.com/contribut ... 1501.shtml
Here are a couple of more recent examples which I recall.

1) Jason Blair NYT
A staff reporter for The New York Times committed frequent acts of journalistic fraud while covering significant news events in recent months, an investigation by Times journalists has found. The widespread fabrication and plagiarism represent a profound betrayal of trust and a low point in the 152-year history of the newspaper.

The reporter, Jayson Blair, 27, misled readers and Times colleagues with dispatches that purported to be from Maryland, Texas and other states, when often he was far away, in New York. He fabricated comments. He concocted scenes. He lifted material from other newspapers and wire services. He selected details from photographs to create the impression he had been somewhere or seen someone, when he had not.

And he used these techniques to write falsely about emotionally charged moments in recent history, from the deadly sniper attacks in suburban Washington to the anguish of families grieving for loved ones killed in Iraq.
In an inquiry focused on correcting the record and explaining how such fraud could have been sustained within the ranks of The Times, the Times journalists have so far uncovered new problems in at least 36 of the 73 articles Mr. Blair wrote since he started getting national reporting assignments late last October. In the final months the audacity of the deceptions grew by the week, suggesting the work of a troubled young man veering toward professional self-destruction.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/11/national/11PAPE.html
2) Janet Cooke Washington Post
It was every young reporter's dream come true: a gripping Page One story in the Washington Post, a public outcry, an investigation by the city and, finally, the Pulitzer Prize. For a glorious Monday last week, Janet Cooke, 26, hit the jackpot. Her sensational account of "Jimmy," an eight-year-old heroin addict, had won the Pulitzer for feature writing, and she seemed destined for stardom at one of the nation's most respected newspapers.

But the fairy tale began to unravel Tuesday afternoon, when Post Executive Editor Benjamin Bradlee received a phone call from Vassar College. Cooke, he was told, had not graduated from Vassar, as she had claimed in the biography submitted to the Pulitzer judges. At about the same time, Managing Editor Howard Simons learned from the Associated Press that Cooke had not received a master's degree from the University of Toledo, as she had also claimed. Questioned by her editors, Cooke admitted that she had exaggerated her credentials (she had attended Vassar for one year and earned a B.A. from Toledo). Nearly eleven hours later, after more grilling and a fruitless search for Jimmy's house in southeast Washington, Cooke admitted that the boy did not exist and that she had invented most of the story. Cooke resigned and went into seclusion. The Post promptly returned the award and apologized in an editorial: "This newspaper . . . was itself the victim of a hoax—which we then passed along in a prominent page-one story . . . How could this have happened?"
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... z0YQrhqpPz

3) NBC Dateline rockets make a good explosion – plus similar stunts by CBS and ABC
An "electronic Titanic"--as Howard Rosenberg of the Los Angeles Times called it---"an unprecedented disaster in the annals of network news, and perhaps the biggest TV scam since the Quiz Scandals." To many, NBC's Dateline fiasco seemed a freak, a bizarre departure from accepted network standards. Would any half-awake news organization have helped stage a crash test that was rigged to get a particular outcome? Or concealed from the public key elements--the hidden rockets, the over-filled tank, the loose gas cap? Or entrusted its judgment to axe-grinding "experts" who were deeply involved in litigating against the expose's target? Or, after questions came up, refused to apologize no matter how strong the evidence grew?

NBC was a latecomer to the safety-expose game, and had come under cost-cutting pressure. Maybe it lacked the high-minded public spirit and adequate research budget that was said to typify perennial Emmy-bait series like 60 Minutes (CBS) and 20/20 (ABC). And indeed, both CBS and ABC put out word that "their standards forbid the sort of staging that got NBC into trouble," to quote a second L.A. Times reporter.

If you think so, read on. An investigation of past network auto-safety coverage reveals that both CBS and ABC have run the same sorts of grossly misleading crash videos and simulations, withheld the same sorts of material facts about the tests, and relied on the same dubious experts with the same ties to the plaintiffs bar. In at least one documented case -- another is rumored--viewers were shown a crash fire and explosion without being told it had been started by an incendiary device. Dateline committed many journalistic sins. But not least was that it couldn't even manage to be original.
http://www.walterolson.com/articles/crashtests.html

4) WBEZ Chicago – my wife worked there for four years (95-99) – she recounts how a local news editor would send out reporters to do additional research if their reports did agree with the editor’s liberal template.

5) Dan Rather and the crude Bush forgeries - or the CBS anchor tries to elect John Kerry.
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I see a difference of reporters being dishonest with their work and actually creating news. Think of all the chronicles of rulers having their records reflect them favorably. Dishonest, but it kept the chronicler's head on their shoulders.

Creating protests so there can be stories of protests, having the entertainment end of Fox insinuating nonsense so that the supposed Fox news division can attribute it as real the next day and creating controversy where none existed previously is unique - if not in novelty then at least in scale and repeatability.
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