Can Sarah Palin possibly be this stupid?

[Anonymous]

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[_bcspace]

Although at first sticking it to the smokers seems desirable, on some levels it's not something I can readily agree to. The same logic one would use to stick it to the smokers would work on the fat people, who also cost us a lot in health care. This would inevitably lead to some kind of control over our consumption of fatty foods, or other things someone deems unhealthy.

Shouldn't have to. As I said, no government run care program is required. Just let the market take it's course.

In the end, do we really want government buearocrats watching and counting every single thing we eat and drink, every day, how much exercise we do, and so forth, so that our "true" impact on the health care costs of the nation can be appropriately estimated?

If one doesn't like this, then why would one vote for Obamacare?

[_Sethbag]

How do you propose that the market take its course on things like I said? What's better about having some profit-driven corporations prying into everything I eat or drink, or exercise, or whatever? I guess my point applies whether it's gubment or the private sector doing it: there's a certain granularity of information about people, finer than which I think we as a society are better off not going. For every activity you wish other people weren't doing that costs us all money, there's probably something you're doing that someone else wishes they could stop you from doing, and so forth.

[_Brackite]

I don't think that former Governor Sarah Palin is that stupid. I did vote for Senator John McCain and Sarah Palin in the in the General U.S. Presidential Election in 2008. However, if Sarah Palin runs for U.S. President in 2012, I will not vote for her. I did get disappointed in Sarah Palin when she Resigned as Governor of Alaska almost a Year ago.

[_The Nehor]

My solution to the healthcare fiasco is to eliminate insurance and cap an individual's healthcare spending at a percentage of their after-tax dollars (10-15% should be about right. Give everyone in the country a card for all medical and dental procedures and care. Deduct at least 5% out of the paycheck and then, when you file your income taxes you also figure your medical expenses and either pay more or receive a refund.

This way, costs have to scale with the market for medical procedures but having a $60000 a year condition or a sudden accident doesn't cripple any individual financially. In the end, we have healthy competition and a severe cutback on the number of medical bankruptcies and no incentives to be broke to get better healthcare. Businesses also no longer have to offer insurance to be a competitive employer.

Unlikely to happen due to preexisting interests but I'd like to see this system tried.

[_richardMdBorn]

While giving a speech in Canada....

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162- ... 03544.html

..we used to hustle on over the border for health care that we would receive in Whitehorse. I remember my brother, he burned his ankle in some little kid accident thing and my parents had to put him on a train and rush him over to Whitehorse and I think, isn't that kind of ironic now. Zooming over the border, getting health care from Canada."

Why did she even mention this?

Doesn't she know her image is now the world's biggest hypocrite?

You claim that this proves that Palin is a hypocrite. I assume that you assert this since you think that Palin has admitted using Canada's National Health Care as opposed to the system we have in the US. But does her statement imply this. Perhaps you can poke a hole in the following.

First of all, despite what Washington Post and other dishonest media seek to portray, Canada didn’t have socialized medicine in the 1960’s. Oh sure, some provinces had experimented with it, Saskatchewan, for one, had some success even. But Canada didn’t have a national health program.

Another far left wing website TPM is also caught up in the lie:

Canada’s single-payer health care system, known as Medicare, was established in 1966. Its principal founders were Tommy Douglas, leader of the social-democratic New Democratic Party and former Premier of Saskatchewan, and Prime Minister Lester B. Pearson of the Liberal Party. It had previously been implemented at the provincial level in Saskatchewan in the early 1960s, under Douglas’s leadership.

At the time of Canadian Medicare’s passage, Palin was two years old.

You see, this is how the dishonest media works, they rely on the hope that you, the reader is stupid and/or lazy, and won’t do any investigating themselves.

If nothing else, Sarah Palin’s very existence and the media’s reaction to her, has shown us that we must fact check absolutely ever single story they produce, because chances are good they got it wrong.

Here’s the truth: The establishment of the Medical Care Act of 1966 allowed each province to set up their own “universal health care” programs, much like the states are free in America to do whatever they want regarding this sort of thing. The key word being allowed. (not required)

Of course, we know that universal care has been a disaster for every state that has tried it in the United States. Think Massachusetts.

It wasn’t until the 1970’s that Canada had any sort of nationwide “universal care” and it only covered in-hospital care. Doctor visits and other services weren’t covered.

It wasn’t until the Health Care Act of 1984 that Canada had what has come to be known as socialized medicine.

So Sarah and her family never “benefitted” from “socialized medicine.” On the contrary, they received the same kind of quality care we enjoy here in America.

Oh, and her brother’s treatment and the two “different” stories? Pretty simple, the family sought emergency care in Whitehorse and the follow up care was done in Alaska.

http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/ ... YING/28325

You may dismiss this, saying that the author is based in favor of Palin. But is his time line wrong?

[_Kevin Graham]

This guy is an idiot...

So Sarah and her family never “benefitted” from “socialized medicine.” On the contrary, they received the same kind of quality care we enjoy here in America.

If that is true, then why go to Canada at all? This guy needs the argument to be very narrow. Only if the argument is Palin relied on "socialized medicine" does he have any hope of scoring a point with a timeline of its full implementation. But the fact is her Mom preferred the Canadian system to ours for SOME reason, right? This guy ignores that problem and continues to tear down a straw man.

[_richardMdBorn]

This guy is an idiot...

So Sarah and her family never “benefitted” from “socialized medicine.” On the contrary, they received the same kind of quality care we enjoy here in America.

If that is true, then why go to Canada at all? This guy needs the argument to be very narrow. Only if the argument is Palin relied on "socialized medicine" does he have any hope of scoring a point with a timeline of its full implementation. But the fact is her Mom preferred the Canadian system to ours for SOME reason, right? This guy ignores that problem and continues to tear down a straw man.

But was it socialized when they got care. And did they use it when there was a non-emergency and there was an American doctor just as close as the Canadian doctor. These are some of the issues which need to be discussed.

[_Kevin Graham]

Again, why go to Canada at all? Nobody in the Palin-apologetic camp seems to be asking this question.

[_Dr. Shades]

Was the hospital in Canada simply closer?