I am sure that guys on this forum have told white lies to their wives all the time. Honey, does this dress make me look fat? No dear. Sweetheart do you think I look old? No dear. Poobear, do you still find me hot? Yes, dear. Honey, even though the Yankees are playing the red sox on TV, you do still want to go to linda's party with me, right? Yes dear. :=)
So what is your point?
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
MrStakhanovite wrote: How does one go about not teaching unverified beliefs to children? I grew up hating baseball teams like the Braves/Yankees/Red Sox because my Dad did. I spent my entire highschool life as a young Republican because my Mom and Dad always listened to talk radio when we were in the car. Dad didn't sit me down and teach me these things, I learned them because I watched him and wanted to be like him.
How does an LDS parent hide their entire lifestyle from their child? Leave a 6 year old home alone whilst they go to church? Or just stop going to Church once they have children? I didn't shed the habits I learned from my parents because I stepped into the light of reason, but because I grew up and formed my own habits and beliefs. Being raised in a religious household doesn't condem a person to a lifetime of unreflective and mindnumbing existence.
So true. But the exlds critics can not see this. It is impossible for them to understand what you are saying. Parents are very much a part of the socialization process when they raise their children. Even if a parent is an atheist they impart values and cultural norms to their children. And most of what a human being is, comes from their childhood and how they were raised.
For critics, a parent needs to leave their ldsisms at the office or on the street and not bring them into the home. When a child witnesses eight year olds being baptised they understand that when they are eight, they will also be baptized. It becomes a right of passage like a barmitzah is for a jewish boy. Maybe Jews should leave that practice at the door and allow their son to make their own decision when they are eighteen.
When we reason in this way, we can see just how infantile the critics are about the LDS baptism.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
I am sure that guys on this forum have told white lies to their wives all the time. Honey, does this dress make me look fat? No dear. Sweetheart do you think I look old? No dear. Poobear, do you still find me hot? Yes, dear. Honey, even though the Yankees are playing the red sox on TV, you do still want to go to linda's party with me, right? Yes dear. :=)
So what is your point?
You still haven't answered the question. Is it right or wrong to lie?
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
liz3564 wrote:Actually, Jersey Girl, I think he did answer it, albeit indirectly. He basically stated that "white lies" are OK under certain circumstances.
I agree with him on this. Whether it is right or wrong to lie depends on the circumstances. While I believe we should be as honest as possible, I can think a some circumstances where lying would be appropriate(ex lying to save yourself or someone else). Life is usually made up of shades of Grey.
liz3564 wrote:Actually, Jersey Girl, I think he did answer it, albeit indirectly. He basically stated that "white lies" are OK under certain circumstances.
I agree with him on this. Whether it is right or wrong to lie depends on the circumstances. While I believe we should be as honest as possible, I can think a some circumstances where lying would be appropriate(ex lying to save yourself or someone else). Life is usually made up of shades of Grey.
Just for the record, why me stated no such thing, but I wonder if he would agree with what you have stated above?
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Jersey Girl wrote: Just for the record, why me stated no such thing, but I wonder if he would agree with what you have stated above?
I did with examples. I will give you another one where guys would lie to their wives about: Wife: Honeybunny, do you think that linda has a nice butt? What dear? "Do you think linda has a nice butt"? I don't know dear I haven't looked. What do you think sweetheart?
Many shades of grey.
Now I do believe that if I put myself in Joseph Smith's shoes and I had a wife like emma, and I believed god wanted me to practice polygamy and yet, I loved my wife..I could see me having to lie a little. It would be cowardly but rational when we see the reaction that emma did have when she found out.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Now I do believe that if I put myself in Joseph Smith's shoes and I had a wife like emma, and I believed god wanted me to practice polygamy and yet, I loved my wife..I could see me having to lie a little. It would be cowardly but rational when we see the reaction that emma did have when she found out.
While I do believe there are circumstances that lying would be appropriate, lying to your Wife about polygamy is definitely not one of them. It is wrong. Joseph was never commanded by God to practice polygamy. Here is a situation where Emma has supported Joseph right from his treasure scamming days, yet if God wants Emma to accept polygamy why not have the decency to at least send her an angel(maybe one with a flaming sword hehe). I mean Joseph claimed an angel was making him do it. Come on people, this is so obviously made up, and lying about it is wrong in this circumstance.