Obama, Cronkite, Kennedy: Soviet collaborators/US traitors

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Obama, Cronkite, Kennedy: Soviet collaborators/US traitors

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Released to this journalist through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), the Cronkite documents include an FBI cover letter, dated June 25, 1986, which designates an attached internal memorandum from the “Campaign for a People’s Peace Treaty” as part of a “Soviet active measures” campaign. The document is addressed to the FBI director and the attention of the bureau’s intelligence division.

While many questions remain about the nature of this secret influence operation and its ultimate success, the documents provide absolute confirmation that the Soviets were targeting major figures in the U.S. media. Other targets were talk-show host Phil Donahue, Harrison Salisbury of the New York Times, David Brinkley of ABC News and Bill Moyers of CBS News and later with public television.

The “Campaign for a People’s Peace Treaty” was a project of the Soviet front National Council of American-Soviet Friendship and was designed to create public and international pressure to undermine Reagan’s U.S. conventional and nuclear arms buildup.

Assistant Director for Intelligence of the FBI Edward J. O’Malley testified before Congress in 1982 that the National Council of American-Soviet Friendship was founded in 1943 by the Communist Party USA and served Soviet interests.

Cronkite, who retired as CBS Evening News anchorman in 1981 but continued to speak publicly about current events, was a natural target of the Soviets and their agents because he was already considered sympathetic to their cause. In 1979, he had given an interview to the Soviet magazine, Literary Gazette, and told Vitaly Kobysh that the “Soviet threat” was “most likely...a myth.” According to the magazine, Cronkite went on to say that “I will never believe in a ‘Soviet threat.’”

Shortly after the interview was published, the Soviets invaded Afghanistan.


We now know, because of documents discovered and released after the Soviet collapse, that Senator Ted Kennedy made an offer to the Soviets to help organize opposition to Reagan’s pro-defense policies. Kennedy was the leading congressional sponsor of the “nuclear freeze” campaign to prevent deployment of U.S. nuclear weapons in Europe to counter the Soviet threat.

At Columbia University in 1983, a young Barack Obama wrote sympathetically about groups involved in the “nuclear freeze” campaign and the dangers of “militarism” but expressed the hope for total disarmament. As President, he is pursuing the goal of a world free of nuclear weapons, which many experts say is unverifiable, and just signed a new Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty with Russia that he wants ratified by the U.S Senate. Obama is opposed to modernization of the U.S. nuclear deterrent.

Cronkite and the other media personalities were included in a list of “possible members of the US delegation to sign the treaty.” A left-wing organization, the Center for Defense Information, is named as being in the position of providing a “military person” to sign the document.

In the area of industry, a first name, “Armand,” is listed, an apparent reference to Armand Hammer, the late chairman of Occidental Petroleum who was a family friend of Al Gore and a Soviet agent.


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Mr space, when are you going to drag out Ezra Taft Benson and all the 'Martin Luther King and civil rights is a commie plot' crap?

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Wait....so Cronkite's doubts about Soviet danger to the west caused their invasion of Afghanistan?
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Wait....so Cronkite's doubts about Soviet danger to the west caused their invasion of Afghanistan?


No, but they felt comfortable enough with his left wing views and popularity that they thought he would be a key ally in helping to smooth things over while they got away with it.

Mr space, when are you going to drag out Ezra Taft Benson and all the 'Martin Luther King and civil rights is a commie plot' crap?


Should I? Is there something to it?

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Joseph wrote:Mr space, when are you going to drag out Ezra Taft Benson and all the 'Martin Luther King and civil rights is a commie plot' crap?

Don't you nostrils get sore from all the leading around you suffer?



There's no crap about it, as any historically literate individual with a desire for the truth of such things will understand. While King was not associated knowingly with such causes (at least in the beginning, because near the end of his life he was moving toward Marxism), there were a number of people around him in the civil rights movement who were, and who influenced his thinking (as his grossly intemperate statements on the Vietnam war indicate).

It has long been known that the civil rights movement was targeted by the Soviets as a point of infiltration and subversion (as both Hollywood and, with poor results, American unions had been decades earlier) as a useful movement from within which to engage in agitprop and influence American policy and public opinion. Bensen was only commenting upon what was widely known in the intelligence community in any event. In any case, after King's death, the movement was hijacked by the Jesse Jackson fringe of the movement and became essentially a vehicle of the black power movement.

Jackson himself has never been unfriendly to communism.
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The Nehor wrote:Wait....so Cronkite's doubts about Soviet danger to the west caused their invasion of Afghanistan?


No. Cronkite's doubts about the the danger the Soviets posed to the west (and the world) and his incandescent credulity regarding the nature of revolutionary socialism eventuated in things such as the catastrophic deception he perpetrated in his reporting of the Tet offensive as a major loss for the American side, when if fact it had been, and was known to have been, a catastrophic defeat for the NVA as well as for the Viet Cong, who were obliterated as an organization throughout South Vietnam. This deep bias spread throughout the mainstream press in Vietnam to the point that very little of the actual military or political realities of the war ever made it into public consciousness.

This mentality among journalists came to a head near the end with the complete fabrications of events (such as the claimed capturing of the American embassy in Saigon by brave Viet Cong fighters).

Cronkite was a classic anti-anti-Communist leftist who's anti-Americanism and gullibility toward Soviet claims was so thorough that his perspective was difficult to differentiate from unalloyed fellow traveling.
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I prefer to think of Cronkite as someone who realized what a joke the threat from the Soviets was. They weren't going to take on NATO or invade Western Europe or push the button that would result in global thermonuclear war.

What threat? That they would take Vietnam or Afghanistan as puppets. Why.....with those nations on their side world domination would be right around the corner. :)
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I prefer to think of Cronkite as someone who realized what a joke the threat from the Soviets was.


He certainly didn't realize any such thing. He was a sympathizer and believed their propaganda.
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Cronkite failed to see the Soviets through the wild eyes of Glenn Beck.


Did you mention anything about the entrepreneurship of Cleon Skousen? Now that's a guy who knew the marketability of a good conspiracy when he saw one.
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The Nehor wrote:I prefer to think of Cronkite as someone who realized what a joke the threat from the Soviets was. They weren't going to take on NATO or invade Western Europe or push the button that would result in global thermonuclear war.

What threat? That they would take Vietnam or Afghanistan as puppets. Why.....with those nations on their side world domination would be right around the corner. :)


Since you are apparently quite well read on Soviet history, the history and philosophy of Marxism, Marxism/Leninism, and the history of the Cold War, please give us some of your educated analysis of the Soviet Union's ideology, foreign policy goals, view of the world and their place in it, and military capabilities (conventional and nuclear) during the Cold War period and the period immediately prior, when Stalin was already planning a long term confrontation with the United States within the context of what he foresaw as the socio/political conditions arising out of the conclusion of WWII. Describe your understanding of the Popular Front program in the 30s, the nature and purpose of the concept of Wars of National Liberation and the Brezhnev Doctrine. I would appreciate it if any sources you give for your claims were intellectually serious (not Chomski, Zinn, Susan Sontag, The Nation, Walter Cronkite, Phil Donahue etc.).

How much recent scholarship have you acquainted yourself with since the fall of the Berlin Wall? Do you understand the meaning and value of Venona? By the mid-1980s, the Soviets outnumbered us in conventional military equipment, from tanks, armored reconnaissance vehicles, high performance jet fighters, combat helicopters, surface battleships, attack submarines, and aircraft carriers in numbers ranging from 3 to 6 to one (not to mention the truely huge disparity between the number of nuclear warheads fielded by the Soviets relative to American at the height of the Cold War, and the fact that the Soviets had large numbers of ground mobile launchers that the United States completely lacked).

Given that the USSR had no natural enemies and that no one had any intention of invading and conquering it, what was the purpose behind this colossal conventional militarization, in which, when we were spending around 6% of GDP, they were spending anywhere from 16% to 24% and perhaps at some points, up to 30% of GDP on their military?

What was the Comintern Nehor, and what was its purpose?

Why did the Soviet Union break virtually every treaty agreement it made with the United States during the Cold War period, from Salt I and Salt II, to the ABM treaty and the MAD doctrine, and simply go ahead and construct a conventional and nuclear capability that substantially outnumbered what America and NATO could field?
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