Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Perhaps Dr. Shades should just let the vocal minority yammer on? When a petulant child cries and stamps its foot, does the parent empower the child? I say no. Let us not empower the fools who seek to limit those who enjoy the right of expression, argument, and persuasion.
How does posting in real life information help expression, argument, and persuasion??
How does refraining from posting in real life information hinder expression, argument, and persuasion??
Excellent question.
And let me just add *stamping my feet* for an added dash of petulance.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
Scottie wrote:As I was pondering this just now, I'm wondering if this might be blown up a bit more than it should.
An incident doesn't necessarily reflect a pattern. Rules are typically implemented when a pattern is observed.
Perhaps I've just missed them, but how many issues have we had? I can only think of the Eric/DCP, the Crockett issue and this one. 3 problems in how many years?
Is it worth all this fuss?
Being a libertarian, I do not vote in civic elections or regarding rules however imposed. I think the fuss is overblown, despite being one who uses an alias and has shared my in real life information with only one other board member.
And let me just add *stamping my feet* for an added dash of petulance.
Yeah, I'm still pretty pissed off at those petulant blacks and women for throwing temper tantrums when they wanted equality. I still can't believe we gave in to them!!
I mean, when we see a wrong being committed, we really should just beat them down more and tell them to shut up.
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I think that most of the comments thus far are excellent. I like the three-tiered approach, which I in fact was thinking about over lunch before I saw that Jersey the spooky mind reader had suggested the same thing.
As for private information, again, Jersey is absolutely right. Address another person by his or her screen name. Do not bring pictures or information from off of the board and post them to the board without the permission of the person.
Much has been made of the fact that I referred here to a thread on another board in which I posted under my full name. Such a reference does not imply permission to use my full name on this board. Any analogous situation: same goes.
Should there ever be a banning? Yes. I like the "three strikes" approach here. Every community has some rules for participation. I can't use a community pool if I stand on the edge of it in full view of others and urinate into it, even though that probably does no actual harm to anyone. There are standards, and having some minimal standards does not create some kind of intolerable totalitarian state, nor does it tend in that direction.
Just some preliminary remarks and thoughts.
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Trevor wrote: I can't use a community pool if I stand on the edge of it in full view of others and urinate into it, even though that probably does no actual harm to anyone.
Really? Well then what's the point of urinating in the pool?
(For some reason, I'm having a harder time being serious today than most days - and I don't even try most days).
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
I think this board should be considered separately as far as personal information one is willing to share to that which is already available elsewhere on the Net,or which one could piece together and track down if they were so motivated. So let's say Joe posts on another board using his full name that's still no reason to use his last name here.
If someone posts here and they don't put their last names here then it should be disallowed that others post their last names. So it shouldn't be easy for someone to google a name + last name and arrive at this board. The reason being as some have stated is that there could be negative ramifications for career and/or family relationships because of their association with this MB and it would restrict what they may wish to express. So I guess what it boils down to is that unless a last name is in the moniker, then no one should be allowed to use that person's last name. I think a first infraction if it truly seems innocent would just require a warning, if it seems obviously done deliberately then suspension for probably a month. After that a banning.
It becomes a more difficult issue if someone can address someone with key words which would allow others to google and come up with their last names, which I know can be done with some individuals who I won't name. So I think this would have to be a judgment call by moderators if this was done deliberately with specific intent to antagonize, harass or threaten, which in most cases it probably would be.
marg wrote:I think this board should be considered separately as far as personal information one is willing to share to that which is already available elsewhere on the Net,or which one could piece together and track down if they were so motivated. So let's say Joe posts on another board using his full name that's still no reason to use his last name here.
If someone posts here and they don't put their last names here then it should be disallowed that others post their last names. So it shouldn't be easy for someone to google a name + last name and arrive at this board. The reason being as some have stated is that there could be negative ramifications for career and/or family relationships because of their association with this MB and it would restrict what they may wish to express. So I guess what it boils down to is that unless a last name is in the moniker, then no one should be allowed to use that person's last name. I think a first infraction if it truly seems innocent would just require a warning, if it seems obviously done deliberately then suspension for probably a month. After that a banning.
It becomes a more difficult issue if someone can address someone with key words which would allow others to google and come up with their last names, which I know can be done with some individuals who I won't name. So I think this would have to be a judgment call by moderators if this was done deliberately with specific intent to antagonize, harass or threaten, which in most cases it probably would be.
I would also like to propose that action should only be taken if the person whose personal information has been revealed reports the incident. The mods can't be expected to monitor every thread.
When an incident is reported, it should be discussed between the mods to make sure the appropriate action is taken.
If there's one thing I've learned from this board, it's that consensual sex with multiple partners is okay unless God commands it. - Abman
I find this place to be hostile toward all brands of stupidity. That's why I like it. - Some Schmo