If they are found guilty. People arrested are presumed innocent until proven guilty, which means they can remain silent, according to the constitution.
You didn’t address the question. Are you saying that while the government can ask me if I am a legal citizen when I apply for a State drivers license or other government privileges or alike, it is okay with them to ask me if I am a citizen but it is not Okay for a law enforcement officer to ask a person that is suspected of committing a crime if they are a US citizen?
You wrote: “ I had no problem questioning those who were arrested for crimes after due process,…”
Explain what you meant by this? It’s okay only if they are found guilty, but not if they are found innocent? Is that your opinion?
The same way it has always been enforced. Most people deported were caught working with illegal social security cards, and arrested on their job site.
CFR? I would like to see that study. Are you saying the federal government has a “team” that goes around hunting down people who use bogus SS cards and they go to the place of employment and arrest them due to this investigation? Again I would like to see that study? I heard on a radio station today, don’t know if it is true or not, that sheriff Joes county deports almost a ¼ of all illegal immigrants in the US, and I doubt it is by SS card investigations
Someone appearing out of the desert coming from across the country's border? Are you serious?
Very serious, it’s a simple question, does a border patrol agent, who’s job is it to protect our borders and keep people coming into our country illegally, to question people whether or not they are illegal or not. I used the desert as a example in that the federal government puts signs out for American citizens to stay out of certain border areas because of illegal drug and people trafficking and ‘coyote’ trails for the smuggling of? So does a agent have the right to ask those who they suspect are here illegally if they are citizens and ask for proof of? If you would like use the example of a boat off the coast of Florida full of suspected Cuban refugees? Or a bunch of white guys in a North Dakota forest next to the Canadian border drinking a Molsens…point being does the federal government have the right to ask a person whether or not they are illegal or not if they suspect the person is?
Hey, I'm not stupid enough to think police officers are anything more than human, void of human biases. In fact, I can show you dozens of youtube clips where police officers are shown to be some of the most rabid racists on the planet. Just last week here in Georgia a police officer arrived to the home of a black woman who called about an outside burglar, and they ended up tasing and beating the woman who called them! The video footage was shocking and the men were immediately fired.
But taken as a whole, the police force in Arizona is AGAINST this law, and they do NOT want to be burdened with the responsibility of being INS agents. And why would they? Rising immigration corresponds to lower crime rates, and every argument supporting the hysteria about illegals in Arizona turn out to be baseless, which leaves only racism as the explanation for their fury. I proved this in a previous thread where you refused to account for the mountain of evidence that worked against your arguments about how illegalls were a burden on the economy.
Ist, you didn’t prove anything of the kind, infact your math didn’t support your theory. Your math demanded that every illegal immigrant, man women and child, pays 10k a year in fed income taxes. And, you did not venture into testing your cf’s as I asked repeatedly to do…the offer still stands.
I personally have more faith in our law enforcement and believe the bad ones are in the far minority, but I guess that's a choice. Whether or not the officers agree with this or not is irrelevant, you could use the same logic for many laws, but at any rate I would like to see the percentages for and against this by Arizona police with the reason why they are against it…CFR please, google it and couldn’t find a break down. I know a police officer who is very close to me and he feels that it is not a good idea in that the feds will not back them up and it is just a waste of time…so I understand your point, but it also goes much deeper as to “why” officer fell the way they do about illegal immigration.
Irrelevant. What child molestors do is also illegal, but I wouldn't support a law that allowed police officers to arrest people in the streets for pedophilia, simply because that person looks like he could be one, and that person doesn't have documentation proving he isn't a pedophile. What a dumb law that would be right? But you don't see it that way because you know you're immune from this law since nobody could dare mistake you for an illegal immigrant.
What part of the law says that Kevin…cfr…Lets be objective here? If the law states what you claim, then I am with you 100%, show me where the law says that.
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