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wenglund wrote:I don't think my comments can reasonably be interpreted to suggest anything of the sort--particularly since the thought never crossed my mind.


Ahhh, I've joined the ranks of thousands of people who just don't really get what Wade is saying. Let's look at what you said again.


wenglund wrote: I enjoy it, too, at times (I have been a kitchen philosopher since well before you were born). However, the way I have found best to "knock away at these age old problems" is to not take them all that seriously, and to keep them in perspective/priority. As long as you are having fun, and not finding your spiritual world view unwarrantedly dashed on the rocky shores of philosophy, then it seems you are not so different from me in how you approach philosophical issues. My consern is more with those who lose perspective and take philosophy way too seriously, and to their detriment.


You are giving advice to a person to not take problems seriously because they can hurt one's spirituality. You care more about a person's beliefs in the LDS Church more than that person's intellectual honesty.

wenglund wrote:...And, my pro-active participation on this board and others, where criticism of and questions about my faith are the predominate subjectmatter, seriously mitigates against such an interpretation.


No of course not! Telling someone in a thread about justification of beliefs not to worry about philosophical problems because they threaten one's religious beliefs is rock solid proof that you don't want to insulate religious beliefs.

wenglund wrote: While this thread is intended to highlight supposed MAD and outlandish comments from LDS, it unintentionally and unwittingly tends to illustrate substantial comprehension challeges on the part of certain critics here--you not excluded.


I love it when you kick your prose into high gear, like it's going to help you climb out of this. You thrive of plausible deniability with pedantic paragraphs, where you can hide behind buzz words like "paradigm" in hopes that if you throw out some sort of jargon it will be confounded with precision.

I know faith is more than ascension to religious beliefs, but there is an ascension to religious beliefs, and they are open to wide eyed criticism and there is no excuse to say otherwise, like you have attempted to do so.
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MrStakhanovite wrote:Ahhh, I've joined the ranks of thousands of people who just don't really get what Wade is saying. Let's look at what you said again.

You are giving advice to a person to not take problems seriously because they can hurt one's spirituality. You care more about a person's beliefs in the LDS Church more than that person's intellectual honesty.


Part of the reason SOME people have a problem correctly understanding me is because THEYare often so intent on telling ME what it is that I am saying and believing (as if they somehow know better than me what was going on in my mind), rather than letting ME tell THEM what I am say. For whatever reason, the thought seems not to occur to them that they could be mistaken in their interpretation. Think of it as a case of their being listening/humility-challenged.

Part of the problem, too, is that, because of how my brain works, I think and write at a somewhat different wavelenght (metaphorically speaking) than other people, and so it is understandable if my messages at times get garbled. I don't fault anyone for that, but simply wish to point out that the message that was received is not the message that was intended to be sent, and to hopefully tune the listener into my frequency so as to successfully complete communications. This tends to work fine as long as the listener is open to tuning into my frequency--something that I have yet to see from you during the short time of our interactions.

I love it when you kick your prose into high gear, like it's going to help you climb out of this. You thrive of plausible deniability with pedantic paragraphs, where you can hide behind buzz words like "paradigm" in hopes that if you throw out some sort of jargon it will be confounded with precision.


I am amused that you assume there is something supposedly for me to climb out of. To each their own.

I know faith is more than ascension to religious beliefs, but there is an ascension to religious beliefs, and they are open to wide eyed criticism and there is no excuse to say otherwise, like you have attempted to do so.


There you go, telling me what I am saying, and this even after I let you know that what you attribute to me never crossed my mind.

I have learned that when this happens (i.e. when my interlocutor presumes to speak for both of us), particularly if it persistently happens, that the conversation with me is affectively over, and it is best to simply leave my interlocutor talk amongst himself.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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Yeah, words don't mean anything. I forgot.
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MrStakhanovite wrote:Yeah, words don't mean anything. I forgot.


As long as you remember that words can reasonably mean a lot of different things to different people, and not just what you personally may assume they mean, then you just might lessen your evident problem with communication.

But, then, that would require you unforgetting to look inward for areas of needed change. Like that is going to happen. ;)

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wenglund wrote:
MrStakhanovite wrote:Yeah, words don't mean anything. I forgot.


As long as you remember that words can reasonably mean a lot of different things to different people, and not just what you personally may assume they mean, then you just might lessen your evident problem with communication.

But, then, that would require you unforgetting to look inward for areas of needed change. Like that is going to happen. ;)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-
Hey Wade,

I miss your bigotry threads.

Would you open that bottle of whine again and let it flow?
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Polygamy-Porter wrote:Hey Wade,

I miss your bigotry threads.

Would you open that bottle of whine again and let it flow?


I would if I were in to a colossal waste of time. But, I am not. It took me a while, but I finally learned that there were just some things you can't change.

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wenglund wrote:
Polygamy-Porter wrote:Hey Wade,

I miss your bigotry threads.

Would you open that bottle of whine again and let it flow?


I would if I were in to a colossal waste of time. But, I am not. It took me a while, but I finally learned that there were just some things you can't change.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


I guess that's one I am still learning.
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Zakuska wrote:So lets see... they have knocked down "race" as "no longer forms an essential part of marriage."

Now the've nocked down "gender".

How about the woman who married the eiffrul tower ?!!

Whats next... "species"? Animals have rights too ya know.


ahhhhh, its a slippery slope!
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gramps wrote:mfbukowski, speaking of preparing for the millenium:

If you want to know the truth, call me a nut, but I am actually learning how to make stone tools, primitive iron-working techniques, making traps for animals with string I have made and other primitive survival skills, and teaching my kids.

Maybe I am a wacko, maybe not


Not wacky at all. No.


So easy a caveman could do it!
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LeSellers wrote:Why should a woman settle for a poor man when a rich one would be willing to take her as a plural wife? It is often better to share a piece of a large pie than to have an entire piece of a tiny one.


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